posted Mon, 10/15/2012 - 03:30
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First REAL cycle help needed
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Need help with first REAL cycle t3 clen and test e. Ok so i already have liquid clen 30ml dosed at 200mcg/ml also liquid t3 30ml dosed 100mcg/ml ive gotten the clen an t3 from a friend at my gym i am going to add a AAS to fight the catabolic effects of t3 i am going to use test for my first cycle i want to use test e but need help on dosing , pct abd also possibly getting tes p or sust to kick start first 4 weeks i am 23 6-2 and 19% bf
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I know its a week later but to be informed of my own body and to get a true accurate percentage i went to a well known university hospitals bariatric research center and paid 135 to have a body fat reading via water weightless body mass calculator were i was actually suspended in a tank .....the result was i wasnt far off i am 15.779 % body fat i am six foot 2 and 3/4 my waist is 35.75 and my weight via the water tank apparatus is 229.71lbs a final report with measurements and percentages will be sent to my primary doctor and i will ask for a copy to post and also post a pre cycle pic a before picturz the tech who did the test said this test is the most accurate method od determining bf and body composition hope this info clears up the debate over my bf% and i am more informed of my body and glad to know my stats pre cycle....
Get in the lifestyle of bodybuilding before you look at compounds. I think you will be surprised how much fat you can loose naturally just by proper diet, training, and sleep. Get it dialed in and stick with it for several month. Take a before picture then take one 3 months later. if your doing it right you will see a big difference.
Go 500 calories below maintenance once you figure it out. That will make you loose about a pound a week. This is a slow enough way because at only 500 below you minimize muscle loss.
Hope this helps, Try it
Thanks for coming back with a good attitude towards what we are trying to put together for you here bro... due to the compounds you have mentioned we cannot give you something "off the shelf" here,this one will have to be tailored to suit your specif needs and we as a community must have your safety as a paramount issue!we can design something that will work but looking at the info so far it will undoubtably need a considerable amount of effort and comittmant on your part to gain control of the bodyfat issue which is my main concern initially as to any productivity from any cycle we can offer and fine tune to your goal.
+3 karma for attitude straight off and the willingness to bring further relevant important info for the guys.
Hey dont know if you seen my reply below the stats i posted were incorrect my friend taped me and used calipers and digital scale to get updated stats 237lbs 13% bf at 6-2 23 yrs old i shouldnt have posted my stats until i knew they were correct my cowoker pointed out that he doubted i was 250 @19% so i called my buddy tommy whos a personal trainer an he came to my job and helped me update my stats sorry for rookie mistake of listening to guy @ my gym for bf and tge beam scale was off also i eat 6 to 7 small meals a day keep my calories under 2800 i lift weights 4 times a week and cardio 5-6 times i take in less then 120 grams carbs a day and protein 180 -220 grams daily hope this helps
cdaddy7U need a good diet...no CLEN no T3 and no test....I would even advise a cycle until your bf was at 14%....too much can go wrong with using gear at this point and esp with the compounds u are considering to achieve ur goals....a good strong cutting ketonic diet with proper cardio and training is what u need for now....I am sure thats not what u want to really here but that's my input
He is all of a sudden 13 % now lol. read down below
If you read were i said my coworker doubted i was 19% bf so we called a friend who works down the street as a personal trainer he used his scale tape and calipers to come up with 237 at 13% bf no need for me to lie i was misinformed and made the correction lying wouldnt help me or anyone so it was a mishap listening to a guy at that gym
I don't believe there's any intention by you to decieve, but those stats just don't add up. Just to give you a point if reference, I'm 6'1", 237lbs this morning, 12%bf and my waist is a gnats bollock over 33" the figures you've posted up are similar to mine, so I'm guessing there's a problem with your pals bf measurement. There's no chance you bf is that low with a 36.5" waist.
Therefore my advice is as I gave you earlier. With higher bf, gyno, sides and more importantly blood pressure issues are more likely whilst cycling. Diet and cardio for 3 months, then tell us where you are and we'll talk again about putting a cycle together.
Good good brother.. could you look after him please i have to keep a tight eye on the SI boards right now
I got him brother.
AnonAs viking said, be very detailed at where you are in your training at this point...your obviously trying to shed pounds, so wjat have you done up to this point before you decided to turn to aas. As far as pct, there is a slew of info on anything you would ever care to know about pct in the forums section. Read up and train hard and you may be better. off to wait a couple years boss
Proper stats (current weight) body type and previous cycle/compounds used please.
My current weight is around 250 19% bf my body type is unsure of technical term but i gain and hold fat in abdomen region arms legs back face etc has minimal fat im 23 yrs old 6-2 my gym experience is 6 yrs on and off my bench is at 235 1rep and my experience with gear is none used what i thought was adrol and halotest orals 4 yrs ago but it was bunk... an help will be appreciated
Mate I'm going going to tell you how it is. You need to lose bf by cardio and diet, then revisit AAS later if you do desire. If you run gear at your current bf, you're going to have problems like gyno, bloating etc. hard work and discipline is your answer here, not pinning AAS.
I don't like T3 use. I had problems myself and ended up having a thyroidectomy as a result. It left me with atrial fibrillation at the age of 31. Having your heart stopped and restarted is scared, trust me. Don't fuck about with T3.
If you need help with diet, I'll help you out ok.
Ok updated stats 23yr old male 6-2 237lbs and 13% body fat 36.5 inch waist 15 inch neck my buddy from the gym down the street came down to my job on his morning break with digital scale calipers and body tape so i apoligize for listing my stats from my gym beam scale off by 12 lbs and sorry for postig what i thought was my bf thats what i get for listening to the guy at the gym now that my stats are correct help with cycle please
13% bf with a 36.5" waist. Something not right about those measurements.......
He used tape calipers and a scale if you think my friend is wrong can you point me in the right direction to realy find put my bf hes a trainer well respected one at that but hey he cpuld be wrong im 237 with work clothes on 36.5 in waist and 15in neck i wear a xl shirt 36 -38 pant and im74.5 in tall not trying to decieve anyone theirs nothing to gain from it he measured me calculted a formula and gave me my bf%
Thats what I thought
X2. T3 and corn straight off the bat I'm worried about this lad....
Ok damm already got t3 and clen dont know how long its good for and my cowoker is debating my bodyfat % im trying to find the correct formula for bf% guy at my gym weighed me and did some calculations but my cowoker seems to think thats high and incorrect as i wear a size 36-38 pant and xl shirt im a total rookie so bear with me im actally talking to a friend about it he has calipers and tape hes going to come by on his lunch break to give me proper % he knows what i look like and hes estimating im between 12%-14% sorry for misinformation my cowoker pointed out i may be incorrect at 19