posted Tue, 09/16/2014 - 04:58
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+ 7 First Cycle Want your input
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Alright, to get this started, I have been a member of the forums and site for about 8 months now. So basically I know nothing compared to most of you.
I am male, 27 yrs old, 205 lbs. @ 6'1. About 13% body fat.
I am looking for feedback on my first cycle, if I am missing anything or should change something? Thanks, here it is:
*****EDIT: Weeks 1-12: 500mg Testosterone Enanthate
*****EDIT: Weeks 4-14: 0.25mg of Anastrozole EOD change to 0.5mg if needed.
PCT 2 weeks after last injection.
Week 1&2 PCT: 40mg Nolva per day
100mg Clomid
Week 3&4 PCT: 20mg Nolva
50mg Clomid
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You should get some HCG. It makes recovery easier. Either take 250iu twice a week once the nuts shrivle (for me happened around week 5) or do a 10 day blast of 1000iu EOD starting 17 days before PCT as it takes a week for the HCG to clear your system. You want the HCG to be gone before starting PCT.
Looks good
Like many said below, good work on posting a reasonable cycle, that was researched out. (+1)
My only comment/question is: Why are you going with 10 weeks and not 12?
Since test-e takes a few weeks to reach maximum blood levels, many people go for 12 weeks. I'm not recommend that necessarily, just wanted to ask why you went with 10.
It's something I have been considering, I know most people go with 12 weeks.
I guess my decision is solely on 2 vials of Test equals up to 10 weeks.
Also being my first time, It's too see how I react as well.
I would still get another vial if you can. You'll have some oil loss in the pins, so you may still come up a little short, plus it's always better to have and not need than to need and not have. You'll know 4-6 weeks in how you will react. Going only 10 will still yield results, but adding another two weeks will not hurt either.
Alright, between the two of you, I will purchase another and make this a 12 week cycle. For the gains.
You should always have more than you need. You can always drop a bottle and break it and you would be out of luck. Think about the 12. You can always shut it down at ten (or before) if you're having issues.
X2, and the fact that 2 vials never works out perfectly to 10 weeks it somehow is always a shot or 2 short and only last 9 or 9 and a half. Been there tried that lol.
So true!!!! (Unless you are getting 11cc bottles.)
No bullshit, you should have always have an extra bottle of every compound you are running. I recently had a bottle hit the bathroom floor and shatter. This happens to the best of us. Ask around. Luckily it was the last cc in the bottle.
man, so paranoid now I'm gonna drop everything all over the place.... LOL
I will be super careful, but like you said, I am def. buying extra. and putting pillows beneath me.
I just went to Bed, Bath, and Beyond this weekend to get a huge bathroom rug for our bathroom. Wifey says its gone as soon as cycle is over, but I can bring it back out for Spring cycle.
HAHA, she doesn't like your style? But this is something I think i will be doing. Gonna pin after hot shower haven't really picked out a place yet though in my house to do so.
Best place is the bathroom. In case you knick a vein and squirt blood all over. It hasn't happened to me yet but I've read some stories that it can make quite a mess
Bathroom is fine as long as it's clean and that you're following a sterile protocol.
yea, every sterile protocol out there is going to be followed LOL
But .. really Fuse you had to say that.. LOL weak in the knees.. weak in the knees now. lol jk
if it happens ill just put something over it, hope i never hit one.
Relax man I wasn't trying to scare you. Just a warning. My first pin I was shaking so bad I just let go of the needle after I got it in. So there I am in the bathroom looking at myself in the mirror with a needle sticking out of my ass. Just had to shake it off and finish the business. My ass hurt for like 4 days. To the point I almost quit the cycle. Then it was time for round two. Hands still shaking but wasn't as bad as the first one. I just want you to be prepared for anything. If you're expecting it and it happens you react faster. If it doesn't happen great. And it probably won't happen.
haha your right, good to know, we all started somewhere, this is a great story. That would suck if I started shaking that bad man, I hope I am calm, maybe get the wife?? to do it? lol yea, right pretty sure she would be terrified. LOL
I would get the wife involved right away. When I pin my glutes I stick it in and hold the barrel steady and have her push the plunger in. So much smoother this way.
well at least you dont have her stick it in your butt. HEHE.. jk
I really wouldn't get worked up about this. Just be calm and methodical. There really isn't much that can go wrong and the pain is very minimal, so relax and you'll do fine.
Thanks man, I'm not really scared about it, just being patient and gonna get my gear soon, just making sure everything is in order and everything I want is available.
But, I am going to go in to this slowly and calm, no rush to get it done, just do it right.
Exactly.
This info should be included in those beginner guides to cycles. This is something I didn't even think about. Thanks !!
Your totally right, see these are mistakes or things us noobs don't know or think about. Thanks!!!
+1 for having the brains to post a good first cycle..don't see to many of those getting posted around here lately
I'm just getting over the shock of someone listing up a well thought out sensible first cycle......
Train hard, eat big and you'll do great. Good luck with the cycle.
You should see me about the pinning. I am reading everything a million times over to make sure everything is properly done, when the times comes.
But, training hard is so much fun, and eating a lot is my specialty! HAHAHA
+1 looks good. But personally If I were you I'd study the signs of hifgh estro and only use the ai if you need it. Use the magnifying glass up top search high and low estro symptoms. Some people are genetically blesssed and have no need for an ai. Also make sure you have everything on hand before you start. Ai pct. This way you know you have it in hand and are not relying on someone to get it for you abd then you need it and don't have it
I agree bro some people will wait for high estro signs before starting an AI. Blood work is key.
Ps you can't give karma until you reach 50 points
I know but it makes me feel like a big shot. Thanks
HAHA, One day when we are over level 50! LOL
Yea, completely agree, I am not starting anything without my Nolva and Clomid in hand. Being this is my first cycle, I will try my best to pick out the symptoms of Low and High Estrogen. I have looked it up and read up on it, but more studying wouldn't hurt! I should get all the symptoms and put them in a list and ask myself them everyday.
Thanks Fusebox!
Looks like you've done your research so +2 for that. Your ai is the only thingg I would change. The test takes some time to build up (4-5 weeks to peak) so starting .5mg from day 1 when your test levels are still normal will surely crash your estrogen. I would wait till about week 3 or 4 and start at .25mg eod and adjust from there. If you crash your estrogen ( drive it to low) first off you won't make any gains, you need estgoem for growth, and next you'll feel like total shit. Depressed, lethargic, no sex drive, you dick might stop working, achy painful joints etc. so it's about keeping a balance of not to high but not to low which is sometimes very hard to do for new steroid users. Do like I said and you should be alright.
Wow, thanks. I understand keeping a balance and didn't notice I could have killed this cycle really early on, cause the Test needs some time to build up.
So at that time, my body wouldn't start countering yet with Estrogen cause the TEST didn't build up yet right? So the AI would be killing my normal level of Estrogen which in turn would crash it.. Dang thanks man! I'm gonna edit it!
So you suggest maybe like start of week 4 to start taking my AI?
+1 for a good layout for your first cycle. I agree with irongame. Everybody is different when it comes to estro levels and if you need a AI. I've learned blood work is extremely important and will tell you everything. Start the AI at week 4. Like iron said get bloods at week 6 and if estro is too high or low just adjust. It's possible you may not need an AI. Search Google for 15% off coupon for private MD labs
I agree as well in keeping check on my symptoms. This Private MD thing, is somewhere i can get bloods done right?
Privatemdlabs.com they will handle all the work and send you to a lab. You go in, give th the printed paperwork and you'll have results in 48 hours. So easy. High estro symptoms for me are always sore/puffy nips. You'll feel and look bloated too. Moon face lol
Same for me and also if my nuts start pulling up or are not hanging freely that is another sign
Gotcha, I have seen some guys in the gym, where its like chiseled jaw to moon face, and they blow up big. LOL
Ok, so they will set me up with a lab to take my blood I get it now. Thanks man! Really good info, 48 hours is awesome!!!!
Here's the coupon for 15% off. Get a female hormone panel. Have you had any blood work done to see your test levels? My first cycle I didn't do bloods and never knew pre cycle test levels. Did my PCT and felt like shit months after. Went and got bloods and found I had low test. Turns out I need TRT which I'm on. It's good to know what your levels are before you cycle
Exactly, so ya I would start it around week 4. But I would suggest getting blood work around week 6 to make sure everything looks good including your estrogen. Its hard to do this guessing, with bloods you can see if you need to raise or lower your adex dose.
Yea, I don't like guessing, I would rather know and do the right thing, with getting bloods done! Thanks for the input man, you set some things straight!!