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How does this look?

I'm 5'7, 170lbs, I'd guess around 12-15 % BF.

Cycle:

1-15 Weeks - 250 MG Test E- Monday Thursday

1-15 Weeks - 0.25 MG Arimidex - EOD

PCT

17-19 Weeks - 100/100 Clomid - ED

17-19 Weeks - 40/40 Nolvadex - ED

19-21 Weeks - 50/50 Clomid - ED

19-21 Weeks - 20/20 Nolvadex - ED

Syringes

50X 3cc x 20g x 1.1/2" - Drawing

50X 3cc x 25g x 1.12" - Pinning

I was considering adding HCG but I'm unclear about the dosing and the need for BAC water.

I was going to actually preload Arimidex because my E2 levels are high if you look at my [attached bloodwork.CENSORED BY MOD.

I usually take Animal Pak & Fish Oil. Is it recommended I take something like Iron Labs Cycle Support?

Gunnett's picture

I just got some Mid-Cycle Bloodwork

Testosterone >1500
E2 53.5
LH .01
FSH <0.2

Gunnett's picture

Thinks are going great! I haven't really had any side effects and I'm weighing in around 185.

I'm already trying to plan another cycle or learn more about blasting, haha!

I guess the general rule of thumb is amount of time off = amount of time on.

cd1's picture

And don't think about blast cycles as these are more for guys like me that run TRT and then blast as I'm at that sort of age...lol.
Your still young so keep with the on cycle... off cycle program and as I already said...let your body rest and your receptors have a regeneration process and you will or should continue to make gains for years to come.

The Impastable's picture

Listen to CD1... We all know how great the first cycle is, and we all know how tempting it is to jump right back on. You do not want to do that at 26, you don't really understand what a pain it will become to rely on that needle just to be normal. Stay away from blasting buddy, you can thank us all in a few years Smile

cd1's picture

Cheers fella....having to rely on gear just to get your mood in a better state of mind is never going to be fun.

cd1's picture

Nice to here your cycle is going well...
Take longer for your time off it will aid you better and help your body recover as it not only about running good cycles it's also about letting your own test function correctly so that you don't come dependant on anabolics.
Take 6 months between cycles would be a good start
Hope this helps

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Read the rules before you post again..... (personal info section)

Side note! ... you do realise running a 15wk cycle with proper PCT+ time between cycles means this will be the one and only cycle you will safely be able to run in a single year!!.......... just sayin.

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Delete that link NOW since it has you personal info man.

Gunnett's picture

I got some bloodwork and it looks like everything is back in right order.

CENSORED.... personal info.

norcuron's picture

The Clomid you were recently running will increase your Test AND E2. Your E2 is only a little up. Soz I would figure your E2 is baseline normal range. Hold on the armidex on a low dose test cycle. Unless you start crying, watching soap operas and feeling all motherly and shit.
otherwise solid cycle.

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cycle looks solid bro! +1 for being a new member who can actually composite a good first cycle. btw, pics look solid. you have a good base built up.

now, i agree with the other guys here in that you should wait a little until you get your hormones back under control first. get back to baseline and when everything checks out then id say this cycle is well thought out and ready to run.

a couple suggestions: keep the cycle to 12 weeks for a first cycle, and dont start your AI until week 3 or 4 once test has built up enough in your system that would actually warrant the AI being used

another suggestion is, and i cannot stress this enough! get aromasin for pct. if you stop arimidex after week 15 then going into pct you will have a big surge of estrogen that was previously being blocked at the receptor flood your system and you will get a whole slew of side effects. why people are still using arimidex i have no idea. aromasin is a superior drug, imo

if you havent orderd your items yet ditch the arimidex and get aromasin. 6.25ed is a good starting point for a milder cycle like this, go up to 12.5 ed if need be, run it all the way through the entire cycle starting at week 3-4 or when bloat/sides start to show, AND pct. taper dose back down to 6.25 ed last two weeks of pct.

why? you may ask, because aromasin is a type 1 suicide inhibitor it doesnt block estrogen at the receptor, it binds to it and deactivates it. what this means is it actually decreases the amount of estrogen in your body not just blocks it. why do we want this? because by deactivating estrogen, once the drug has been discontinued estrogen levels will slowly rise back to baseline. when using arimidex all the estrogen in your body is still present but is being blocked at the receptor, once arimidex or letrozole or other type 2 inhibitors are discontinued all that built up estrogen is allowed to dock at the receptor. this surge is called estrogen rebound and is the main reason why guys get bad estro sides post cycle. save yourself the headache of dealing with these and get aromasin

HCG shouldn't be necessary with a mild test only cycle like this. will it hurt? no but why spend extra $ that could be spent on food? if you already have it. dilute it in a sterile vial with bacteriostatic water. when injecting the water let it run down the side of the vial NOT directly onto the peptide. for use on cycle 250iu 2x/week and 500iu eod last week or so leading up to pct.

make the concentrations easy. 5000iu amp hcg diluted in 2ml of bac water = 250iu per 10units on insulin syringe. inject subq. bac water can only be found online ready made afaik, but making your own is easy and cheap. distilled water with .9% benzyl alcohol is all it is.

hope this helps, be safe, have fun, enjoy the cycle

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crazymofo's picture

Your Lh FSH and estro numbers are all high. How long did you have that blood work down after you stopped the clomid?

Gunnett's picture

Maybe a month

crazymofo's picture

Well clomid has a pretty good half life so that may have been the culprit. I would wait and get retested in a month and see if your numbers change or hold steady. Also would get on a diet high in zinc and magnesium to help with e2. Steel cut oats, flax seeds, spinach and many other things are great.

Gunnett's picture

Thanks for the diet advice!

RickRock1086's picture

I would start the Adex about 3 weeks into te cycle I hope you are 25 or older or you will get blast by people here & Holly fuck 170 @ 5'7? You are a decent size mofo already. Everything else looks good, happy grow

Gunnett's picture

I was taking Clomid for PCT for a cycle of H-Drol, I did a few months back and I screwed something up.

Do you think the Arimdex can get my E2 back in line?

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Its not too bad. Some say shoot for 20-40 or 30-50 while on cycle. I bet if you bumped your next 2 doses to 1mg then went back to .25 EOD you would be fine. Get bloods at week 5-6 to confirm.

Cut the cycle down to 12 weeks. You can only gain so much mass per cycle. Your gains will have stalled by then.

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Gunnett's picture

Reasoning on 15 weeks was just because of the the quantities that Test E is sold in but it guess it never hurts to have extra.

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