posted Mon, 01/30/2012 - 17:42
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First Cycle Prop? and questions
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Thinking of running prop for my 1st cycle
400mg's for 8 weeks, Thinking prop because it kicks in quick and if sides or problems arise the ester clears alot quicker...
Have no problem with injecting often only worry was prop pain but i here
Hulks shouldnt be bad with a 2% BA..
What does everyone think?
ill put a pic in asap
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oh and i had a cup on in the pic it was before grappling practice
lol that is me in the pic i have others if needed but thats one i like im pretty much all shoulders arms traps back and calves, lacking in quads and chest abs
im 24 been lifting quite a while
im 5'9 200lbs about 16% bf at the moment im bulking
maxs dead 455 bench 335 milt seated 225 squat 365
tread-mYou're doing well and working a plan that is effective for you. I would suggest you continue without the use of gear. If you choose to move forward with test its test only as you have set out and I'll tell you what I think you might want to do if prop is your choice. The cycle you have has petential with diet dialed to goal and good traing to meet the goal but there might be a problem with prop for you. Muscles and the body become accustomed to the chemicals so pip withb a long ester may effect ou some and pip from prop could be harly there or EXTREME! Having said so, I would have a long ester on hand for that reason and also in case you decide the very frequent pinning is not for you. As a first cycle I would go prop at 150 mg's eod which is a little milder than a standard prop of at least 100 ed but its your first and you look good and will do well at that number. If your reaction is extreme to the prop you could switch to the long ester. Problem there will be that it takes a bit to kick so you may have to continue prop for at least 10 days to allow the long ester to begin to drop. Extreme reaction to prop is such as 2 people I know who swell to the size of half a good size apple over the pop site. In that scenario I suggest you pull off the prop altogether and on with the long ester. You will have a quick drop in free test levels in that scenario but you will know within a week of prop use so not a major deal there. My instinct is to move you towards the long ester though so you not only build some pinning experience but so you can become accustomed to compounds to some degree. Over time pip is less of a problem and can eventuall for some people such as myself be a non-issue in that you not only don't have pip but you can't even tell where the pop was an hour later and no soreness at all. We are all different. This is your decision and if the prop is where you go the shorter cycle is fine and if you decide on long such as E or C then about 12 weeks at 500 mg's split. Remember as a newb to test, have arimiedex and letro on hand and your pct for a good pct run following the cycle. If you end up being able to tolerate the prop then pct begins a day or two after last pop, if ou end up closing with E or C then about 14 days following last pop.
thanks for the well written and thought out reply.... Well i guess it wont hurt to stay natural for one more year and get more done and have a better base
haha
How long were you natural for? and what worked best for you when u were?
tread-mI hate to have to tell you but I don't lie about it, I ran my first cycle at 21. Way to early and it was a simple bad ass ego impatient thing like a kid would do. What you are doing is what works best given your gains. I would keep the plan changing if needed but the thing that most of us learn way later than we wanted to is diet. Diet to goal is the whole deal. If you are wanting to gain you go to a 6 meal a day plan feeding protein in increments. Not that this plan is for you but if you have never been to jaycutler.com click blueprints on the home page and look through his diet last year. A builders diet is what you need to be a builder. Its 90% of the goal IMO. Eating your way to any goal is where the magic is. You have done well brother, a lot of good stuff coming your way wheher you wait or not because the one thing so many don't have, the patience to get it done day in and day out, you do have. The pics don't lie and you have the other real nice benefit of good genetics. If you decide to use gear or rather likely when, keep your work ethic as I know you will and you move forward just as you have so far.
cool thanks alot man! well i will stay in contact here and bump this thread time to time to let u know how it goes
thanks again!
tread-mSaw the pic, good shape but how old are you?
sgtstedankoBig Fucking Sigh! My opinion, is this. STATS Dude, Stats!!! That means Height/weight/BF. How long training. Mothers' maiden name, last four of your social. You know, the basics...
IMO, I don't think that much pinning is good for a 1st; but not a big deal either way. We'll discuss more on that later. Maybe. Hey, have you read my post
http://www.eroids.com/forum/training-nutrition-diet/workout-exercise/bet...
Bro your better off running Test E or Test Cyp for your first! Lol You yourself and your body wont like the eod injections. An you wont really have any side as you would with some other compounds like Tren Bro. Get your bodyt used to sticking your self with a needle.
http://www.eroids.com/sites/default/files/gearpic/12801/me.jpg
tread-mSo its gonna be like that huh? I know that face was photo shopped bro, thats not you!
that whole photo looks shopped...
tread-mI know right! I thought we were family here...sigh