First Cycle, need advice
Hello all,
I'm looking to start my first cycle and was hoping you could advise me on some things. I'm 25 yrs old, 260lb, 6ft3in, with about 26BF. I took a hiatus from the gym after I got out of college (burnt out from 8 years of weights for football of highschool and college) and I want to get back into lifting and feeling good about myself. I am going to start back up in the gym 5 days a week and take up a high protein, low fat, low-medium carb diet in the next month and plan on starting my cycle up at the end of this year. My buddy who has done several cycles suggests I do the following:
Wk 1-13 Test E 500 mg
Wk 1-12 EQ 500 mg
Arimedex 0.5mg EOD
For PCT approx 2 weeks after last Test E injection:
Nolva (didn't give me the dosage) for 4 weeks
HCG (didn't give the dosage or time frame)
1.) Does this cycle and PCT look alright (should recovery work out so I don't mess up my body and hormones after I am fully complete with everything)?
2.) Do you have a general dosage I should follow for the nolva and HCG?
3.) I'm a little confused with the HCG. He says not to take it during the cycle but take it during PCT but a lot of forums say to take it during the cycle. Which should I follow, and what dosage for either during, after, or both?
Additonal information: I plan on getting blood work performed before, midway through after the EQ and Test kick in, and after to make sure my levels return to normal. My buddy advised me on the PCT and recovery and that it would differ a little for me on when to start it and when my full recovery would happen since everybody is different. Please let me know your thoughts. I will take any advice, thanks.
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I made the error when I was younger to jump on a cycle when I wasn't ready. I suggest you listen to all the advice you're getting in this thread and do more research, I hope I had those resources available.
Drop the bf, get a good strength base and fine-tune your diet and training down to a T. After all that is in place you can start thinking if you seriously want to do aas. Also, for a first cycle I'm in the field of test only, or at most test+an oral. That is from observation on myself and others. Be safe.
I'm liking the advice guys. I'll dedinitely hit up some forums about proper nutrition and dieting to get a plan worked out since I've never truly dieted. We never had to be shredded during football season, just needed size. I'll wait on running a cycle until I can get my BF down. Any advice on what BF % I should get around before re-assessing if I want to actually run a cycle? Again, thanks for the advice
When we are talking about maximizing the amount of lean body mass for a cycle, the lower you can go the better. Bare minimum I would shoot for is 15% but what I like doing when bulking is bringing it down to 12% or lower and then cyclic bulking. Keep bulking back up to 15% and when I hit that do a mini-cut for a week or two to drop it back and then go back up to 15% and so on.
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You always see sub 20% as the "standard", but opinions differ greatly and I think that's too high. But everyone is different. I wouldn't shoot for a number, per se. Shoot for doing as much as you can naturally. And you can get A LOT done naturally with the amount of nutrition advice on this forum, especially at your age!
And know that the more fat you have, the more you'll aromatize, the more you have to be careful about your heart, your bloodpressure, your joints (from carrying extra unsupported weight), etc...
Besides all of the spot on advice you've already gotten (please listen to it), I want to address this
In a couple years when you've gotten your BF down and have a healthy lifestyle and get this idea in your head again, just know that no matter how perfect your cycle is laid out, and how great your PCT is, there is ALWAYS a risk of never recovering. Sure, you can do is take precautions, but they're not guarantees.
First off the cycle you have layed out is pretty much garbage. More importantly though is that you need to drop a good 35+ lbs of fat off first before considering any type of cycle. You say you are not going to start cycle until the of the year so I think dropping that fat off would be doable by then. I would then reassess your cycling plans at that time. You are putting the cart before the horse here. You need to get a lifestyle change in with your diet first. Running a cycle will do squat if that isn't taken care of first. I need to see some dedication to diet before I would be recommending any cycle advice. Crush through the training/nutrition section and learn what you need to do to successfully change your diet and don't be afraid to ask questions. Then I think you will be more prepared to run a cycle after that.
100% completely agree. Too young and too much body fat. As the man said you need a complete lifestyle change.
Once your goals are focused then comes your real food nutrition plan. Combine real food, training, cardio, and natural supplementation first. Your body would do wonders with supplements like natural herbs detoxifiers and complex B vitamins. Yohimbe would certainly help curb appetite and help mobilize stubborn fat as well.
Once your goals, lifestyle, real food diet, training, and supplementation are focused on completely then mastered, only then would I even consider running a cycle.
Cons:
Too young in my opinion, too high bf%, too much aromatase enzyme as a result, no research done whatsoever on AAS, Ai's, HCG's, SERMS and Supports. No detail at all on both diets needed/lifestyle changes to reverse current situation wrt; fat/food habits, and lifting plan. But... somehow ended up figuring needs steroids...... which really is cart before ass.
Pro's:
Didn't take yolo buddy's crap advice yet
Advice: Dont cycle friendo. A good start would be to embrace a change in lifestyle towards healthy clean eating... then learn to diet, then learn to bulk all clean and all while learning how to train properly and to fuel it properly based on goals. When you nail that, and there is so much research and learning involved in that alone, you will be old enough and prepp'd enough to really start researching AAS cycles... including reading the stickies all over this site and how to use the search bar to find advice/info/data
Lousy cycle; besides the point; drop that BF way down before anything. You can do it.
My thoughts, based on my own experience, drop your bf down through cardio and most importantly your diet. It is easy to think about how things on cyle will be but not that easy in practice. If you are struggling to get your diet right while on cycle, thats no good and if your overweight, worse. All that aside in my opinion I would get back to the gym b4 even thinking about using aas. Spend a year training natural . Idk what your goal is but I'm sure you can get there without anything.
…Unless his goal happens to be to look like Jay Cutler. Depending of course on which Jay Cutler he means…
backonroidsGood advice , BF needs dropping for sure before anything ,