posted Wed, 02/18/2015 - 15:25
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first cycle help.
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I'm on my.first cycle, introduced by my friend after he did his. Would like.more knowledge. Reading off internet I'm getting a lot of conflicting into.
On my 3rd week of:
500mg /week Test C
50 Mg/Day DBol
Have not had any gyno so far. Should I take some gear AI just in case or should I wait to see if o get gyno?
Also, when it comes to PCT, what would be my.best bet? As far as gear and dosing protocol. Thanl you all for your input.
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More research. I would be ttaking a ai from day one, alot easier to prevent it then cure it. Keep your it under control. My first cycle was
Weeks 1-6 50mg dbol (started 30mg to try)
Weeks 1-8 test e at 500mg (last two I did 750mg)
Weeks 8-10 test prop at 100mg eod
Ai- arimidex at 0.5mg eod (don't make the mistake of taking to much, your joints will not like it)
Pct- after three days, last pin
Novaladex 60/40/20/20
Clomid 150/100/50/50
Typical little higher then some may have taken, Didn't really realise until after but I recovered pretty fast and only lost 1.5kg which I gained back 3 weeks later
And u did the test prop taper when? In the winter?
Not sure if your trying to be funny. I'm serious. I took the test prop at the end for two reasons 1. Being I had to only wait 3-4 days until pct instead of 2 weeks and 2 I just wanted to try another compound and see if I hold less water. Only testing and seeing what works for me. Yes, back a while ago it was standard practice to taper off, did it do anything?, in my opinion no but whatever works for you.
If I was wrong in doing so please reply I am interested in your opinion, it's a learning experience and only want advice
No i am serious, when, though? You never stated.
Read the comments, last two weeks I changed to test prop. Weeks 8-10. Why? Made sense to me. Earlier pct have always made it easier to me. You disagree? Also wheN over Christmas and my blood type os o positive. Sorry didn't mention that just in case it matters haha. Nar, why does it matter when I did it?
Hey i gave u a thumbs up cuz ur new....what did you do today.....shit your pants on accident...lol....there is a reason i asked you that question.....hopefully your smart ass will learn some respect, while you are here!!!
Now get your eat on and get right with EROIDS so u can learn how steroids will benefit you...cuz right now your attitude and tone are holding you back from making progress....
Thanks for the thumbs up. Yes, I did arc Up, why? Because I thought you were taking the piss out of me because I'm not as experience with aas. Everyone is here to help each other. If that wasn't the case I apologise, yes your are more experienced then me and I respect that and take your advice when it's needed. No hard feelings. I want to progress and not Piss off people. Also still puzzled one why you asked that question, could you enlighten me please
If your only here to troll please don't bother, I don't care. I'm only here for advice and help and to discuss sensitive matters with the peace of mind (security) if you think it's 'smart' going around trtrolling other jubes because you think your experienced (you probably are) you need to find a hobby, my view of this website was it being a forum where experienced people help the less experienced and each othe. Please rethink your strategy. I'm not here to angry. Thanks
Then you'd be wrong and will deck your estro.
Overly complicated and unnecessary. You've been around here long enough to know this isn't how we like to guide people.
My apologies, my intention was only to help. I'm only new to it as well (coming up for 6 cycle) and thought taking something mild like a-dex from day one would be a more advisable thing then getting a gyno cycle once he developed, obviously I was wrong. Please noone take that bit of advice and listen to catalyst advice, bro science will get you. I should have researched it better before providing advice.
It's a fine line between letting it creep up and putting your estro on the floor. Neither are good and it's more tricky if someone is prone to gyno etc. Orals like dbol aromatise heavily, but I'd still let it roll for a week to ten days before any AI use. Low estro and you'll get a achey joints, tired, lack motivation etc. If you've got any joint problems then they'll be exacerbated by low estro.
Good info.
AnonIf you have sides on the proposed cycle you are not going to know which compound is the culprit
So your about to turn 25? Never mind you really need to wait a little bit before starting this cycle... Your 5'10" 175lb
You can hit 19o without gear with hard trying and good diet
Even if everyone refuses to spoon feed you because you are a dummy and started without knowing what you're doing, all the information you'll need is in this site. Read all the stickies in all of the forum topics here and you'll find everything you need.
Week 14 starting clomid 100mg/day and nolva 40mg/day for two weeks then cutting down to half that for preceding two weeks. Good?
3200-3600 is the goal. My appitite is to say the least I'm forcing myself to eat 3/6 meals of the day. I plan on getting bw don't at week 4, 8 ,12, before and after my pct. So I will start taking aromtasin, I have 12.5 mg doses, should I take 1 per 3 days?
Post your PCT plan with the drug dosages and frequencies you have researched and noted below.
Week 14 starting clomid 100mg/day and nolva 40mg/day for two weeks then cutting down to half that for preceding two weeks. Good?
What times are u gonna dose the clomid and nolva?
My bf is currently 10.5 %, this is a 13 wk cycle with the dbol for the initial 4 weeks. I've been lifting for 8 years since my freshman year. My diet is on point with 275-325 grams protein , 80% of which in lean meats. 125-150 complex carbs, taken in morning and directly after workout. I'm around 70 grams of fat per day.
Do u know your body type? U must have a fast metabolism. Those calories at that macros with your stats and experience lifting should have put you above 175lbs, especially with the protein and its source. Have u been eating like that for eight years?
Nice macros. I like it. How many KCAL? How many meals per day and intervals are u utiluzing?
What about bloodwork, bro? Is it in your plan?
How long is your cycle length? No pre cycle bloodwork? Three weeks in on a cycle of AAS that isnt even recommended for a first time user, or first time cycle? C'mon you are going to have to do better than that! And, to top it off, your PCT should have been researched much better. Welcome to EROIDS....
Doesn't put it lightly but MedEx is 100% right. More info and more research
Question. How does one jump into a cycle, with a substance they clearly know nothing about, without doing the proper research first? Oh wait, I know, stupidity, because that's where I started myself a few years ago. Aside from the obvious age issue, what are your stats? What is your body fat? What is your diet like? Your training? Why did you jump on AAS at such a young age?
"should I wait to see if o get gyno?" horrible idea
I have nolva, clomid and aromasin by the way. Im ready to go, just would like imput on your thoughts of dosing protocols. As well as inital questions concerning me not having any gyno symtoms without taking aromasin.
First off I want to thank both of you for your concerns. I will be turning 25 March 3rd also. With that being said, as I have taken the choice to take gear, with what knowledge I do have, I am simply asking for insite because I am infact a beginner. Thus , I am here. Now, If anyone has any insite as far as my initial questions, I would appriciate it. If you simply want to state your opinion on age protocol and so forth, please skip thread.
I love it when you guys arrive and start telling people what to do.....
AnonIts an open forum bro, you are going to have to deal with peoples opinions. Even if its not what you want to hear, these guys opinions are actually going to be your best advice. But you are not looking for answers, seems like you want validation. But hey what do I know and why should you care?
My advice would be to get some bloodwork done, stop this cycle and run a proper pct while you research how to cycle correctly before starting.
Hey man, you should really know all your shit BEFORE starting a cycle. I wrote a long response for you but i looked at your stats and you are 24, so out of respect for the site i would have to stay get off gear and do a proper pct. nolva and clomid look it up.
Wow dude your already running a cycle and u don't even have the cycle figured out. Dangerous plus your only 24 and we have over 25 limit for cycle help. I would help u stop and run a proper pct but I highly doubt u would want that help