posted Sat, 05/12/2018 - 08:46
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First Cycle Help - 500mg Test Per-Week
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31 years-old. 6'3" 190lbs. 6-years BB.
My first cycle: 500mg Test E (per week). Want to make sure I use correctly with proper PCT. Please let me know if everything sounds okay.
500mg Test E (per week for 8 weeks) - 250mg Mondays and Thursdays
PCT: Nolva (4-weeks) 40/40/20/20mg
23GA 1" needles
Questions:
What are your top recommendations for on cycle therapy to optimize results? I was thinking Arimidex (.5 every other day if needed).
Do you prefer glute or quad injections (I'll most likely be injecting myself)?
Appreciate your feedback.
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My favorite spot is the upper outside of my quads, close to where the opening of the pocket on a pair of jeans would be. You would be well served if you could work your glute into the rotation though. The more sites the better to prevent/reduce scar tissue build up. Delts are pretty easy once you get comfortable injecting, although I didn't go there until my 3rd cycle when all of the injecting jitters were gone. Also, you may want to consider 1.5" pins for lower body. Going deeper will reduce post injection pain.
basskiller89I prefer to pin my upper half of my quads, I find there are too many nerves at shallow depths down toward the knees
Update your stats with your 11%
Post a pic
What are your goals for this cycle?
Query Harris Benedict Equation and calculate your BMR with and without activity. Bring that info back to this forum and let's talk about your cal/mac plan.
I draw and pin with a 25g 1inch , some oils can take awhile to draw so you have to have patience but I prefer a 25 to a 23 . I'd add more pinning sites , glutes , delts , quads , its recommended to have more but if its your first cycle you might be OK and maybe in the future you could add more pinning sites when you get used to injecting .
Hello Sir,
Bloodwork before cycle, throughout to check male and female hormones and after pct
AI's only based on the blood works adjusted accordingly
Glutes injection
Clomid for PCT
Regards
Just curious but why do you advise glutes?
Yeah I would definitely recommend at least rotate from quads to glutes
I don’t hear too many ppl suggesting delts but that was my favorite spot until I got the hang of quads. Now those are my favorite. Delts to me is like going to the doctor to get a shot. I don’t even use glutes anymore because I’m shaking so hard trying to get back there and still have a good grip on the pin
I only ran one cycle but I can tell you I had my wife pin my glutes and I did my own quads. 1.25 inch for sure on the glutes and I used a 1 inch in the quads. Mostly no pain either way. Did a couple delt shots with the 1 inch just to rotate sites. That’s an easy one to get yourself too.
Please post bf %. If you are planning glute injections you may want to go 1.25" needles unless you are extremely lean! You need to do more research but I will help you.
500mg weekly is fine but I would recommend a 12 week cycle. Test e is a long acting ester. By the time you start seeing results you will be finishing off your cycle. I tend to start seeing the most gains around week 7.
Pct you need to start 2 weeks after your last pin! If you want a quicker more effective recovery (which is what we all want) 4 weeks minimum pct standard protocol. Nolvadex 40 40 20 20 and Clomid 100 100 50 50.
No need to blast the ai early on as this can crash your e2 levels early on and you really will start to feel like shit! Remmeber we nees e2 in order to build muscle also. I would wait until around 5 weeks in get bloods and this can really only judge on whether you need to run an ai during your cycle. I never suffer with any high e2 related sides so only keep it on hand if needed.
I hope this helps you but I would hold off, do as much research as possible and make sure this is what you really want. Get your food, training and rest dialed in! This is a big decision and trust me once you start this stuff your body will never be the same again in terms of your natural hormones. This is a bigger step that a lot of guys realise.
Agreed
Great reply. Appreciate all the useful info. Wanted to make sure everything was mapped out 100% before beginning. As mentioned, I've been a BB for 6-years but waited until I felt mature enough to take it to the next level. I saw my best gains (natural) between 26-28 - it's been a little stagnant the past year but I've trimmed down from 210lbs to 190lbs holding onto most of my gains. My current BF is about 11%.
If you have what you consider a proper cycle template to follow, please inbox me - I'd love to see it. Also, please share any stories/warnings you have (re: 'your body will never be the same again').
Two questions:
-Best ways to hold onto gains (as much as possible) after cycling off?
-Clomid AND Nolva for PCT or just Clomid (other posters seem to prefer Clomid and disregard Nolva)?
Listen Clomid is not negotiable. Hcg is too complicated I can tell. You know just enough to be dangerous. Keep researching and learning as much as possible before starting. Like every single yellow post in forums sections start there
You need Clomid for PCT too
How is nolvadex going to help restart your testosterone post cycle????????
Although I don't advise it I have done nolva only pcts in the past and have recovered just fine.
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It was used by a lot of people for years for.pct because it was more readily available than clomid . I know a few guys who never used anything but nolva for pct . Not advised these days to run it without clomid though but like you I used nolva years ago and recovered fine .
I'm glad you see where I'm coming from bud! To be fair my first few cycles I used nolva only. Only when I started adding in the compounds and running longer cycles I started adding in Clomid and running my pct longer than standard pct protocol to recover faster and more effectively
James this would be in the not smart advice category
What you on about? Did I not just state above that I didn't advise it? Years ago Clomid wasn't around and This is all what was available and was the only thing used for an effective pct. But as stated above...... I Don't advise it
I was just being sarcastic no big deal.
Sorry if I came across a bit shitty with my reply. Dieting down with very low carbs and went a few hours with no food haha