First cycle
Age-25
Height-5"7
Starting weight-182
Workout regime: I need good advice on what to workout, different exercises, and when.
Mon- chest and tris
3 sets push press 25,20,15
3 sets Flys machine. 12,failure,failure
3 sets One arm cable cross. 12,12,12
3 sets incline. Super weak lol 12,8,6
3 sets tri push down
3 sets skull crush
Tuesday- legs
Wednesday back and bi's
Thursday-shoulders
Friday chest and tris
Off sat and sun.
I really wanna develop my pecs. And my traps are also miniscule af. Help me haha I basically just do 3 sets for every single workout, I lack knowledge on it. Save the negative talk. Just constructive criticism if any portion favor.
What's up guys, I've been doing a lot of research lately and read a lot of forums on "the first cycle". I decided I want to try out a cycle, I suffer with low self confidence and social anxiety and from what I've read, this can be a real confidence booster. Not sure about the social anxiety part tho. Lol. I'm just ready for a change man. I am a beginner so any tips or feedback will be noted and appreciated. I'm also no writer so bear with me. Lol
I just got some 300mg test e in today. I'm going to inject 1cc twice a week; Tuesday and Saturday. I'm on a strict alarm set diet. I'll be waking up at 445 am for fasted cardio and eating my first meal at 7am. 9 egg whites and 3 packets of oatmeal. My 2nd meal will be at 9 and that will probably just consist of a whey shake with Greek yogurt and some fruit. At 11am chicken breast and or tilapia with 2 cups of rice and asparagus. At 1pm same thing, or maybe some steak and a baked potato. 4pm will be my last "meal" with chicken breast and shit or whatever else I have around filling and clean. I'll hit the gym at 6pm be home by 745pm and be in bed by 9pm. I don't know if all that info was necessary but fuck it lol. I'm also unemployed at the moment so this will be no problem as long as I stay motivated and dedicated. Go ahead judge me, I'm a bum right now, fuck it I'm trying to get big. Another thing I'm stressing about fucking up my first injection, which will be in my quad, thigh whatever. Since it's the easiest place to do yourself. I've watched countless videos and Idk if I squeeze the leg and inject or spread the skin apart and do it. The videos are going back and forth on that. So leave your opinion on that. 10 week cycle, clomid 50mg pct. No anti esters, read you don't really need them on your first test e cycle. But if I see any bitch tits or if my nipple s start getting super sensitive I'll pick some up. But yeah man I think I covered it all. I think yall can see my starting pic. I'll be posting every week or more frequently it just depends on the response I get.
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Made a mistake and went against advice. I've done a lot more research and I'm no where near ready for a cycle. I have no base and I haven't mastered a diet. Sadly, I'm 3 weeks in and want advice on how to stop the cycle now and recover from it if possible. Thanks.
This is sad to hear Tee, I'm not having a go at you, but if you go to people for advice (ie. this forum) wouldn't you take it? I know everyone wants to get huge and lean but man, this shit takes time!
How are you doing now? Have you managed to find a PCT and quit the gear?
Hope you're doing ok mate!
Stop and run a pct.
You think we give out this advice because we want to stay exclusive to some secret cult...? FFS...
For 4 weeks? And do i wait to start 2 weeks after my last pin? And na man, just being stubborn.
Yes for 4 weeks. As rusty suggested in your other thread you can do half dosages. Or full, your choice.
Alright thanks!
I've been injecting 600mg/week, no a.i.
Well....this post went south super quick lol.
Welcome to Eriods! I'll be polite but honest. You do NOT need gear for the next couple years bro. Get your diet down and work out. Worry about gear after you have a better base
Thanks man. Guess I'll wait.
Good to see someone wanting to learn and do it the right way! +1
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Welcome to eroids! Now the bad news. Cycling right now is not a good idea. You really do not have a base, you are asking us to formulate a routine for you, you have low self confidence and social anxiety, you have what looks like a decent meal plan but without variety you will be at McDonalds before you know it. Give yourself more time in the gym and research more on what your goals are going to be. If you just want to get big then hang out at a fast food restaurant. Also whoever told you no ai for a 1st cycle is also a moron. If you are unemployed you are not going to be able to afford the bloodwork you are supposed to do before the cycle, the food you need to eat during the cycle, the ai, the pct drugs, afyer cycle bloodwork and everything else. Wait until you get a job, know more about training, a varied food plan, an ai, more then 1 fkn bottle of test, pct. Are you sure you are 25? Look more 22-23 to me. So you need a few more years and a job to afford and to run safely.
Thanks man! I respect your experience and input for real! I'm not the best with choice of words, but i don't really want you guys to fomulate a routine for me, I just wanted some outside suggestion. I kind of made it seem like im a headcase but i was just being honest and I don't believe gear will have a negative effect on me. I have plenty variety, just got lazy on the forum. i hate fast food lol im always cooking. I have the money to afford food, pct, etc. im just unemployed atm. yes im 25, thanks again man. no disrespect.
I have suffered from depression my whole life. Self esteem...suicidal thoughts. I currently on welbutrin..but that is besides the point. I can tell you right now from first hand experience that steroids..if done..properly and safely..will absolutely boost your self esteem and mood. Especially when you start to notice your body changing. The "me time" ..you give yourself at the gym.in the kitchen..knowing that you can rely on yourself is a confidence booster in itself. With the time you put in and the positive results you will see..will get noticed..not only by you..although it may not seem like it sometimes, but, people will notice. Take care..listen to the vets..i dont post much..but lurk in here reading alot with that search engine, there is a wealth of knowledge you can immerse yourself in.
Good luck.
i should have worded, after self esteem and mood....finding the right combination as a psychiatrist diagnosis and treats along with anti depressants, which can be taken at safe levels, just testosterone, as part of the treatment.
We don't advise that steroids are a self esteem booster or in any way shape or form an anti depressant. There is quite a large amount of data that shows the opposite. Suicide shit like that when people come off. When running gear you need to be of sound mind to recognize when the hormones are fucking with your mind. Tren comes to mind. You should delete this response dude. Extremely bad advice!
i can see how my wording could have been taken the wrong way, after reflecting on my original post.
do some research and really read into this subject. I in no way am saying steroids alone is a anti depressant. for low testosterone in men, even at a young age, is possible. as an anti depressant? i never said that. But, it is prescribed to elevate testosterone levels to bring people out of an emotional rut . no a solution, but , part of the process. look it up. a said person can, be on depressants, such as welbutrin, prozac, ambien,lexapro, trazadone for sleep, etc, and still have to take testosterone injections if that is the case. it takes time to find the right combinations of doses and tabs to find the right fit, because everyones neural pathways are so different. like putting together a puzzle. call a center like Theraputic solutions....like one in northern CA or somewhere. ask. there is such a stigma of using testosterone as a means of finding the solution, not the sole means. diagnosis is tricky. check out health online, medline plus, webmd, magazines such as pyscology today, hope to cope, relevant magazine, be better health magazine. take care.
How old are you?
Relax brother. I'm not saying it's not possible. I'm saying we on this website are real careful about our wording so as not give some knucklehead a sign off to self diagnosis. It's common knowledge that low t causes a plethora of physiological as well as psychological issues. Slim saying is we don't want to give someone the idea that it's good to run a train with tren and Paxil. As I said. Have to be of sound mind when running gear and have the ability to know when the gear is effecting your emotions both good and bad.
same man same. I was on zoloft for 6 months but haven't taken anything for about 9 months now. Not doing bad but you know how depression is. That's really good and relieving to hear, thanks for your time!
What is your age? You need to fill in your stats accurately and HONESTLY
Who the hell are you? I do not need to post my fucking age. But..just to satisfy your curiosity..43 years young.the rest of stats are what you read. So what was the neg for? I did not advise him to take anything. I gave my honest opinion. From my point of fucking view. There are far more qualified individuals who can give him great knowledge. I gave my scenario regarding my experience with steroids and depression in a thread a couple years ago. Go read it. Says the same thing..not word per word per say. Dont lecture me on honesty..youngster..grow up a little more before you come at me.
You shouldn't be scared to post your age or an unidentifiable pic...lol...paranoia will destroy ya...
I strongly oppose your advice. its clear that this individual is in an unstable psychological state of mind and steroids should be the last thing on his list to do in order to correct his issues. the way I see, and based on his attitude, your one comment that appears to condone and support his bad decision will override 15 other members telling not to run a cycle.
Don't try and question my level of maturity, you're the one flying of the handle over a karma point. Then to top it off you condescend me and try to insult me.
Agreed...
ok, again, i did not give him advice to take any steroids, i detailed my experience. i perhaps should not have used the word "you" per say, in my post but, me. if you really stepped outside your self and looked at the words in my post carefully, think about them, maybe you could have understood. so, do not judged me until you have walked a mile in my shoes. i could tell he has issues, a blind man could, he will get better, i can relate to him. if he wanted to speak in pm, i would advise him on therapy, medications, etc, because i have first hand knowledge of that.and some professional experience. i have spent years years of overcoming, but, still getting there. if you are not an expert, meaning professional experience, do not bring up the word unstable or psychological., his diagnosis would not be unstable. unstable is a strong word, used for more, active patients . may just be depressive anxiety, there are many other factors that come into play. as far as insulting, get over it. so what.
You might not have told him to use a a certain compound at a certain dose for a certain length of time...but the picture you painted for him was even more glamorous and "gung-ho" about how steroids make you a better person...wrong info...look at his pic, look at his workout, OP even posted a hypothetical macros, which is obvious he doesn't follow. The man DOESN'T NEED ANY STEROIDS!!
And you know he does not need steroids how? In terms of his low drive he states below? People do not realize that it is possible to have this condition at a very young age. I suggest you do some research on the subject. As for my gung ho attitude..that again is MY experience. If a person is suffering from depression and low testosterone...seeing and feeling
Your body and attitude change will absolutely make you feel gung ho..especially if you have never felt this way before. As for your "paranoia" assertion..who said i am paranoid? You have my age above. I stated it.
Right now, it would be a good idea for you to go along with the general consensus of the OPs forum...just to save you some time in trying to prove your point of what you are attempting to salvage from your own personal issues and beliefs...lol
Besides, OP changed his mind, anyway, which is the best decision. And, it's why people like myself, and the other members that gave advice in his forum are here...thanks for your input..lol
Ok..lol..keyboard savy typist you are. Funny you dont challenge me on scenarios i layed out in terms of professional speak. If you truly reflected..you would understand.. maybe.Maybe you have had issues as well. Good luck with your future endeavers be well and enjoy your journey.
Thank you, sir. All the best...
Lol just because I'm not a social fucking butterfly and get down on myself time to time doesn't mean I'm an unstable individual.
if i were you, i would get my testosterone levels checked immediately. people often overlook that factor when it comes to depression. that can absolutely impact your state of mind. serotonin levels,etc. the guideline they give for testosterone levels, doctors would regard as "normal", are on the low end. so, when they give a person their guideline, levels should really be considered normal toward the "high" end
Thanks for being understanding and helpful bro. I'll pm you soon to get some more advice. I'm going to get them checked before starting for sure. I'm guessing they are somewhat kind of low because of my low sex drive at my age.
your welcome.
unstable , that is more, hardcore. you obviously are not unstable.
Glad you came to eroids. It seems you have done some research on the drugs. What are you total macros for the day? Its also a little concerning that you are questioning your workout routine but want to run a cycle. If you want to bulk I wouldn't be doing fasted cardio.
Training should include all the big movements; DEADLIFTs, squats, bench and even standing overhead shoulder press. These lifts put the MOST mass on you and give you growth that isolation work is incapable of. These lifts fill in all areas and really pull your physique and STRENTH together.
I would suggest waiting another year or so before running a cycle.
You mentioned that you have anxiety and low confidence. What I can tell you, from experience, that pushing yourself outside of your comfort zone and into situations you're uncomfortable will do a lot more for that then steroids. An increase in testosterone could actually make your anxiety worse. When you have higher levels of test, this can cause a higher production of epinephrine (adrenal) and this can lead to actually feel MORE anxiety.
In regards to confidence, the best and true confidence comes from accomplishing things in life that you never thought possible. Push yourself to get a job you never thought you could get. Even if for some reason you don't get it, you will still gain confidence because you pushed yourself. If you do get the job it will give you even more confidence. It would be awesome if we could all inject some test and because total ALPHA Mofo's but it doesn't work that way. When you come off cycle, when you go through that hormonal shift, it may be very difficult for you and completely screw your head up.
There are some great guys on here with loads of experience, please don't hesitate to ask. I just want to suggest once more, waiting for another year or two. Your body will be in a better place and hopefully your mind will be more prepared for it too.
Thanks brother, im consuming 360g of protien, 265g carbs, 118g fat.
Yeah, lol i knew id get some shit for questioning my own routine, im just interested in hearing about other routines honestly. I hear you out on getting out of my comfort zone, it's just difficult because i say basic shit that really kills conversation and has me looking boring. I'm pretty dead set on doing this cycle tho, but I appreciate all the concerns. thanks again man.
You aren't catching shit about "questioning your routine." However, you will catch shit for having an attitude that expressed how unwilling you are to listen to reason. You are the one who came here for constructive criticism in the first place. Steroids wont correct your social awkwardness and inability to be properly social. You wouldn't know first handedly because you claim you've never run a cycle, but when you come off cycle, it will mess with your mind. If you already have psychological problems, the degree in which you will struggle and suffer is exponentially higher than the average person.
You're right.
Well, since you are dead set on doing the cycle and ignoring our advice, good luck to you. Dont ask for advice in the future if you dont like what you hear, maybe thats why you are unemployed. And there is no way in hell you are taking in that much macros, you would be well over 200 pounds on that.
X2 on macros...
yeah advice for help during the cycle. not you trying to stop it lol. I'm going to continue to ask for advice and hopefully someone that respects my decision and has experience as well wont mind giving me knowledge with going forward in this journey. keep being the success story you are my friend ;)
You will not get a cosigner so stop fishing for one. Success story that I am? Ok gloves off? You are a twig, you have no idea how to train, your meal plan is a cut and paste, you think steroids are going to make you magically bigger and also a social genius rather then a pariah, you are clueless, you have no job yet you try and say you can afford all the food you need, must be easy when you live in mom and dads basement. Did I miss something? Looking for confidence? Go and make something with your life and get a job, move out of moms house, then come back and we can talk. Until then keep playing world of warcraft and watching Rich Piana videos.
Damn man spot on. But hey rich piana has a name and you don't lmao. You spent so much time arguing with me and you have no idea about my life dude. Glad we have dicks around like you though. I'll be sure not to be this way when I'm more experienced and someone new is asking for help.
You might not last that long, bro...
He's that same shmuck that posted his pic with lotion in it...looks like same body type...
It puts the lotion on the skin or it gets the hose again!!!!
Actually this is my first account and first time posting. Suck him up some more bud.