First cycle
What's up guys, I'm new to the forum here. A bit about me, I'm 25 and I've been lifting regularly since I was 15. Right now I'm 6'2 270 at about 19% body fat. This is my first cycle I've ever done just figured I'd give it a shot and see what happens. So I'm on week 6 of my test sust cycle at 1cc a week split between 2 sticks. I've been penning on Mondays and Thursday's and at week 8 I'm adding in some eq. I was just wandering everyone's thoughts on that and what kind of benefits/sides I should be expecting. Also wandering about dosing and when I should pen. The guy a get my gear from is very reliable and is a good friend, he's also been using gear now for about 10 years and knows his stuff pretty well for sure. I was just looking for some outside input.
Thanks in advance
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RustyhookerSust at 2 pins a week is unstable. Eq late start...NO. Dacky has ya correct bro. Tighten up the diet. Leaning out pops the muscles out and looks bigger
Stats
Age: 25
Height: 6'2
Weight: 270
BF: 19% from what you said above. Please update this in your profile.
First cycle should be test e or c only at 500mg for 12 weeks. Sust is a bad choice as because of the different esters in the blend it needs to be pinned EOD to get stable blood levels.
Do not all the EQ. Sounds like you need to do more research. If your dealer was a good friend he would not let you run multiple aas compounds for a first cycle. So no point us taking sides/benefits/dosing etc.
You mention nothing about your diet and goals or use of ancillaries for estro control. Did you pull pre cycle bloods? What about on cycle bloods? What's your plan for PCT. Your BF is a bit high to be running a cycle. Should be sub 15%. Have you been bulking and this has come up since you started it was it this high/higher before?
My diet is pretty clean honestly. 4 eggs with a cup of oatmill and a scoop of whey in the morning then I'll eat a chicken breast and sweet potatoe twice after gym I'll usually do a tuna party or turkey burger with white rice and a shake them I'll eat the same but with brown rice later on and cottage cheese with a fruit sometime before bed. Haven't had blood work done but my blood pressure is regularly monitored by my gf who is an rn and the highest it's gotten was 128/82 but is usually right at 120/70 or so. My body fat has actually dropped a lot recently I just haven't had time to get it checked recently due to my work schedule. And my plan for pct was the normal clomid pct that I've read a lot about. And as far as first cycle I should have been more clear. I did pro hormones several times before the big ban so it's not technically my first cycle. But as far as goals of just like to get to a point where I could possibly do a show. I'm a big guy with id say above average genetics and I've had multiple people tell me I should. I put on most of the bad weight in the fall due to a hunting incident. Fell 25 feet out of a tree stand and had a pretty bad high ankle sprain so I couldn't do any cardio for almost 2 months.
bigmurphDacky knows his stuff brother take his advice. I also agree adding now doesn't make sense. At 25 run what you already jumped on but next cycle stick around the community and get some strong research going i really think your first cycle could have been alot better.
Good luck and good gains brother.
Thanks for clarifying. Finish out your cycle on test only.
EDIT - you may want to change your pinning schedule to e2d to get your test levels as stable as possible. Do not add a second compound.
Do a proper PCT - you need to do more research here. Standard PCT is:
Clomid 100/100/50/50
Nolva 40/40/20/20
Then recover. Take proper time off. Do blood work and look at what you need to do given your goal it to compete. There are loads of good fella's here with lots of knowledge. Research and then more research. Then come and propose things and be open to constructive criticism. Good luck.
Thanks for the input, I'll change my penning schedule starting today. And I'll finish out this test only cycle and do a bit more research before my next one. But as far as results go, for only 6 weeks of sust 350 I've made some great gains. But thanks for helping me maximize my cycle. Is there anything else I can do to get the most out of this one, in my last 10 weeks?
First of all 16 weeks is a bit long for a first cycle. 12 weeks is the norm. 14 at a push. The best think you can do is to go and get some blood work done to look at your testosterone levels on cycle for the amount of test you're running and more importantly estrogen. You want this to be optimised for growth. Too low or too high you will have problem. Blood work will also tell you how your body is responding in terms of lipids and Hemaglobin/Hematocrit levels as well as renal/electrolytes. At a later pour if you run orals and other types of injectables then liver function is important too. This would have been better had you got blood work before your cycle so you had a baseline but still worth doing. Otherwise if your diet is working for you and you're training is good there is not much else to say. Good luck and +1 for laitebing and having an open and mature approach.
Thanks for the input guys, so since I'm changing my injections to e2d should I just do 1/4 of a cc since I've been doing a cc per week? Sounds like a stupid question but I wanna make sure I do it right
To keep it equal you would need to do 0.285cc so 0.3cc would be fine. I don't normally suggest increasing doses mid cycle (especially for a first cycle) but your running a very low dose of test. Almost too low. My suggestion is to up the dose to 0.5cc EOD and run that to the be of the cycle. Now the problem is EOD pinning requires about 7 to 8 injection sites to allow for proper site rotation. Please make sure you can handle that. I seem to remember you saying your GF is a nurse so hopefully she can help you here. If you don't think you can then the alternative if you get some test e or c and run this at 1cc twice per week to save you pinning so much. If you're going to increase your dose of test make sure you watch out for high estro signs and do a blood test in 2/3 weeks to Cheka estro levels and start and AI if needed.
Thanks for all the help man I'll try to schedule to get some blood work done Tuesday that's my next day off. So you're basically recommending me to up it to 2ccs per week to ride out my cycle?
Well technically If you stay on the sust it well be less than 2cc per week on average (1.75cc) as you will do 0.5c. EOD unless you switch to test e/c then run it at 1cc twice a week so that would be 2cc per week yes. But in essence yes.
Awesome I'll get to it. Do U recommend me take anything else durin my cycle? I've been steady taking creatine, amigos and protein obviously but be never taken a lot of supplements really.
I'd drop the creatine. No point taking this on cycle. Use in PCT and when off. I always take 4 to 6g of Omega 3 fish oils daily, a multi vitamin and 500mg of vitamin c twice daily year round. On cycle I like to use an all in one "cycle support" product. There are loads of these you can buy online from supplement stores or Amazon. PM me if you need a name. You're not running orals or other exotic injectables so liver support is not necessary. Most important supplement is water. Make sure you drink 6 to 8 litres per day.