First Cycle
I'm planning on running my first cycle at the end of summer, probably start at the beginning of September.
I've been on a slow cut since mid January current stats are 193cm, 98kgs 17%BF. I plan on continuing to cut until September hopefully getting my BF down to around 12%.
I'm currently having 290/300g Protein 60g Fats and 230g Carbs approx 2700kcal. I haven't yet calculated my macro split for my bulking phase but I plan to start increasing my calories mid July to get back to my AMR level and then eventually to around 500kcal over that during the bulk.
Any input on the below cycle would be much appreciated. Main goals for the cycle are size and strength.
Week 1-12 500mg Test E
Week 1-5 50mg Dianabol ED
Week 1-12 25mg Anastrozole EOD
Week 15-18 100/100/50/50 Clomid
Week 15-18 40/40/20/20 Nolvadex
I have read a lot about the water retention with Dianabol, after coming off the cycle how much mass can you expect to lose? Is there a better alternative to use that doesn't cause as much water retention?
Thanks!
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dropping the dbol is a very good idea for you if its your first cycle. You have to see how your body responds to test and test alone and believe us everyone gets wicked gains off there first cycle. This way you will be able to guage how much of a difference test alone makes in your physique and then what to look forward to next time around when you want to add another compound. Everyone is different how they respond to dbol but theres always initial water weight and bloat. Youll get some water on test as well but it goes away after the first few weeks. You also dont need the dex right away, atleast not for the first 10 days and then see if your having sides and what not pop up and take half a tab eod or a quarter tab. Again everyones different. Just take it nice and slow and youll get hard gainz outta this. Oh and uhhh 2700 calories aint nearly enough, 3.5-4k cal is a must if you wana put on good quality mass. And follow the blood work advice below its actually very helpful to know how your body is reacting from the inside even though on the outside youre feeling like thor. Good luck buttay.
Stats
Age: 29
Height: 193cm
Weight: 98kgs
BF: 17%
First cycle so drop the dbol. No need for this in a first cycle. If you run into issues you won't know what's causing them. The test or the dbol. First cycle is always test (c or e) only. And yes dbol will cause significant water retention in most people. As you will drop the dbol then your AI dose need to be adjusted. Take a read of this post - https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/first-cycle-when.... Both options are very valid and have worked for me.
As you can see blood test pre-cycle are a must as well as on cycle - for example to adjusts AI dose as per the post. PCT doses and duration are good.
As to diet. Getting to 12% BF is a good plan. I would get my calories to 1000 over maintenance and keep protein high - 300g minimum. Fats at say 20% and the rest low GI quality carbs. Majority of calories should be whole food based. Use protein (powder/bars) for post exercise only and therefore sparingly. What's your training plan look like?
I haven't really planned out my training plan for the bulk just yet. I have a very rough idea-
18-20 week length
Week A Volume
Week B Power/Hypertrophy
Week C Strength
Week D Taper (if needed)
Those weeks aren't necessarily to be completed in that order maybe look a little like A,B,C,A,C,B,C etc
Sorry for the ignorance but when going to the doctor do you just ask for a full blood test or do you have to let them know that you're specifically looking at testosterone and oestrogen?
I have read and tried to understand the blood work bible guide as best I can. Is there something similar to read about how to interpret blood work results with regards to AI dosing e.g. if Estradiol levels are above x then increase AI dosage by y?
The blood test on cycle should be carried out around week 6? How long after finishing PCT should you have another test done if at all?
Thanks for your time.
Have everything planned out first bro, don't try stitching things together once you're on. What are your goals for this? Bulk as in add mass, or gain strength, or what.
Are you stateside? Look into getting model done through one of the websites that do them here (forget the site, someone will fill it in) and get the female hormone panel.
Everyone reacts differently, so you have to figure out your dosages based on bloodwork and sides... Theres plenty forums here giving you a baseline to go by.
Bloodwork around week 5-6, then again after cycle 4-5 after you come off PCT to ensure recovery. Make sure you also get bloods pulled before to know where you stand right now and what you're aiming to get back to.
I'm UK based so can only speak regarding blood work here. But as I understand it is much easier and cheaper to get in the US. I would always avoid going to ask my regular GP about this and would just order that tests online. I believe this is how it works in the US - Female Hormone Panel is what you need but if you want it broken down then get the following:
Total Testosterone
Estradiol
LH
FSH
Prolactin
SHBG
Full blood count
LFT
Renal and electrolytes
Lipids
Thyroid function if you want it
Come back and post the results here and we can help interpret them or advise on any issues you may want to get checked out before cycling or in general.