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first bulking cycle help

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Hey guys I posted maybe a month ago about an oral cycle I was looking into, didn't end up doing it and am just cutting down with clen and still doing my first show in June just for the experience of being on stage.
My current stats are
27 years old
5'9
170lbs
8-9% BF I'd guess I'll be getting it checked again Tuesday but last Tuesday I was sitting at 10.4
4 weeks out from my first mens physique show

Anyways I finally talked myself into doing an actually injectable cycle and ended up picking up EQ and test-e along with Arimidex and nolvadex for my pct

I bought the EQ but if you guys think staking those together is too much for a first cycle I have no problem dropping it and running test by itself. Also I've read for slow acting esters some people frontload with test-p what do you guys think abou tme using it the first 4 weeks?

My plan I've put together, starting in June, for 12 weeks

Test-e 500mg twice a week

EQ at 300mg twice a week

Arimidex at 12.5 everyday

My goals are just to bulk up a lot better than I have previously, I won't be getting back on stage until I can hit 190-200 in a bulk, but I also don't expect to get that from this first cycle.

Again thank you for any advice, criticism ect.

jimmie's picture

There's a ton of threads already on first cycles, use the magnifying glass up top there to search (looks more like a ping pong paddle).

You'll see the same advice over and over again. Read all the stickies in all the forums.

You'll end up with something like;
test e 500mg/week split monday and thursday. Personally I run it every 3 days, just mark the days on a calendar on the wall, 200mg e3d
arimidex or aromasin starting week 3 at a low dose, adjust as needed.
pct 20 days after last pin, clomid 100/100/50/50 nolva 40/40/20/20

Blood test before to get baseline readings, blood test 4 weeks in to adjust ai, get bloods as often as you'd like. Then again 6 weeks after pct to verify pct protocol was legit.

SamBam's picture

I'd cut the test in half. My first cycle was 500mg test e and got amazing gains.

tzelukie's picture

I can appreciate the fact that have come to your senses on the inj verses just orals. Nice move! Now, for a first cycle what your proposing is shit! Use the glass, (search first cycle) Just a hint- you don't need two compounds for the first, and if you don't know how each compound reacts in your body a first cycle is not the time for trial and error. Hooker has some questions, it would be proper for you to answer them as this is the best way that we can tell if you are 1-serious, 2- responsable and willing to listen to advice, And while your in that wonderland of knowledge how about ponying up a real PCT just keep it basic. PCT compound or compounds and why. My opinion is if you run a basic first test only cycle HCG will not be needed, so ignor that for now. Good luck!

Coconut's picture

One compound at a time so you can learn how each one reacts with your body. Everyone is different. Ur test is high for first cycle. I would drop the eq this cycle. And I'm 100% sure u don't wanna take 12.5mg of Adex bro. I run Adex super high and that's only 1mg Ed. What's your pct look like? Use the magnifying glass at the top google first cycle. Tons of info

stish0715's picture

Sorry, I meant 1.5 I must of fat fingered it, I will correct that either way and lower that as well. I liked the idea of EQ and what others claimed it did over all the other bulking compounds is why I threw it in there. I'm not sure why I was planning on so much test after having two guys say it's too much guess I wanted to jump in big lol I'll definitely take a look at.that number again

Originally I was planning on running Nolva only 20 ED but going back over it after iy was.suggested to look into clomid and nolva 4 weeks after my last shot

Clomid 70/35/35/35
Nolva 40/20/20/20

Thanks for taking the time give me the ideas/advise