-1 EQ + Sustanon 1rst cycle
Hi everyone,
I've posted a question here in this forum a few weeks back, and you guys helped me a lot. It was related to a first cycle plan. Unfortunately, I couldn't get the gear I wanted/needed for that cycle. So now I will have to come up with a whole different plan, and I would appreciate if you guys can give me a hand.
Originally the cycle was basically 12 weeks of test (500/w) and proviron.
But now what I have with me (only this gear was available) is Sustanon (20ml total), Proviron (2 boxes), EQ (20 ml), Nolvadex (1 box), Clomid (1 box), hcg (2 x 5000iu), and Aromasin (1 box).
So the cycle I'm considering now would be something like 14 weeks of Sustanon and EQ (750gr - 600 gr week respectively) Proviron at 25/50 week, Aromasin 12.5 mg eod.
pct- 2 weeks after last injection: Nolvadex 20,20,20,20 (1 whole box), Clomid 50,50,25,25, Aromasin 12.5 mg eod (3 weeks).
hcg- starting one week before last injection at 1000iu week, till pct starts. (maybe running hcg during cycle at 500 iu because this is a "long" cycle?)
Last but not least, I would like to mention that this Sustanon is a blend that comes with 350mg/ml, and the EQ 250mg/ml, obviously not from pharmacy (underground labs). Proviron, hcg, clomid etc etc is from pharmacy tho.
I would appreciate any advise from you guys,
Cheers!
PS: my stats really quick, 35 years old, 1'83 cm tall (6 feet), 78kg (171 pounds), 11%bf, 4 years gym. Looking for a lean and mean bulk. Thanks!
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Rustyhookertroll retread. Warning before proceeding
Yea, enough of this...
RustyhookerHere's the op. Link is below. Roids or food ?? Folks are trying to get food and mass naturally but nope .
https://www.eroids.com/pics/me-before-cycle-0#comment-2003170
not too far off from the example pic
RustyhookerFairly accurate. Now he'll yolo....
I've given him help with his diet. I'd suggest he applies that for 6 months first. Do I think that's going to happen? No. Damage limitation exercise in my eyes, at least he's at a point now where he's got solid diet advice and, (hopefully), only runs a basic cycle.
Reality check, this is exactly what 90% of the AAS users look like now.
This is what I'm going to do. And I'm being honest, so you can honestly bash me as well (so far you guys are doing an excellent job) I could have lied, I could have post this thread with a different user name, I could have sent a fake image or just lie with my weight etc etc. But who cares, right? Who gives a damn shit about honesty.
Anyway, this is what I'm going to do. I'm going to keep eating more and better, including all those advices that I've got here, which I appreciate. And I'm going to run a cycle which looks like this: 12 weeks sust, at 500gr week (2 pin). I'll drop the EQ for later (as you recommended). I might do a 25gr Proviron day, and obviously aromasin, nolvadex, clomd, hcg etc when needed.
About this 90% of AAS users, I'm so sorry for you guys, that you have to live with this reality. You guys rock, the 10% heroes. I salute you all.
Peace.
Sarcastic comment one after the other. You said you wanted honesty! You've got the help you needed right? So maybe time to stop?
I'm sure what you meant to say above was "thank you everyone for the time you have spent stopping me messing up wasting money and pumping incorrect exogenous hormones into my body". Maybe a typo? Seems to have ended up as "poor me, you've all been mean".....
I don't mind your sarcasm, it's funny.
But what i wanted to say was "yes, thank you, but please don't go ballistic on me, calm down a little. I didn't come here to be judged, as we are most of the times out there. I just came to get a little advice so I can decide for myself". Fair enough?
the problem with asking for advice in an open forum is that you have no control how the advice is delivered. As most of us know advice that is sought after is usually in efforts to confirm a postition that we have already taken and advice that doesn't meet what we are looking for usually makes us feel like we are being judged or criticized. So, it is necessary to know that prior to asking so that your sensibilities won't be damaged when people tell you what they really think ;-)
I don't have control on how the advice is delivered, as much as you don't have control on how I will respond. So it's a fair game. From my perspective, giving advices or recieving them is not a problem. Thtat's why we are here. The problem starts when someone takes an ego trip about it, and disrespects people. Since the beggining, I've been very respectful, and some of them as well. But if you start making fun and abusing your position, I will respond. If I go to a doctor and ask him something, and he replies back politely, haleluya. Welcome to a civilized society. But if he starts to make fun / judging me, I will say: fuck you sir. I don't know if you understand me. Me being an ignorant in this stuff, doesn't give you the right to bash me. It's almost like having a son, if he ask 2 or 3 times the same thing, because he doesn't understand yet, will you have the patience? Anyway, who cares. All of you are right. And it's quite tiring having to discuss with all of you at the same time. That's a very confortable position on your side. Have a good day
RustyhookerPussy crybaby.
You been here before troll boy. II got your number cupcakes.
Nobody "bashed" you or took an "ego trip" as you so eloquently explained. Like most of this thread, it's another huge incorrect assumption you've made. You start making smart ass comments all the time to everyone because, quite frankly, YOU made a fool of yourself. Even after that, I tried to ensure you understood, you make more sarcastic comments. You even make sarcastic comments about posts made with nothing to do with you.
You're over sensitive, fighting back when there's no fight in the first place. I'm struggling to believe you are the age you say you are to be honest. People were trying to help you, not fight with you. Just look back at the number of sarcastic comments you've made and do it objectively, I can list them all here for you if you like? They far outweighs any critique you've received.
No point defending against an attack when there isn't one.
Don't bother responding to me with more crying / moaning etc. Like I told you earlier, you've got diet advice and cycle advice, time to move on. It's the Internet, get a grip. Thread should be locked so nobody has to listen to you any more.
lol... you have a great day too Popeye ;-)
i know, it's too much for you
well, actually, I'm trying to keep from making anybody cry today .. it is a personal goal you know, I ve been a roll lately
what's grong with crying. Drop the facade
RustyhookerOnly person getting back rubs and bubbles is wifey. Lol
RustyhookerYou take it as a bash. I give it as the advice I'd give my own family. I'd rather see you eat your way to 200 THEN cycle. You'll learn what's needed to not be just another yoyo addict like many here.
And next summer when you're 220 you'll realize tough live was real. And you'll be thankful.
https://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/why-build-a-base
Thank you very much for your advices. I won't personally ask you anything else until I get there. So we both can be happy now. Deal?
RustyhookerHave a great week! Catalyst won't steer you wrong.
Welcome to eroids sir!
Yes, yes.
Thank you
I dunno bro. You and I are close in age. When I was coming up it never was like this. No mail order steroid supply, just gym dealers and steroids were a precious and rare commodity. You had to have a lot of muscle on and be pretty damn strong before any dealer would think about hooking you up.
Is it the mail order that's changed everything? The Internet? The truth that if you don't have a good muscle base to start with that the drugs are not gonna work and you will lose all your short term gains is still true today as it was then.
I guess it's mostly down to accessibility as you say.
Well, I don't know about steroids being a rare commodity back then. I mean, It was even legal in some countries, and cheap.It was easier to get the real stuff. But the internet, as you say, is obviously a change factor. We have now access to the information we need. We can share that information. We don't have to rely in our gym dealer alone. We can double check. We know more about post-cycle therapies than back then. We have more scientific research, more compounds to play with, we know better about nutrition and so on.
But well we are not discussing that. And I hear you. Eat better, grow bigger and then use gear. And that's good. I know now what's the advice, the proper way, so to say.
And I don't want to lie, I'm going to start that simple cycle anytime soon. The good thing is that I have a nutrition plan, that I've been hitting the gym for quite a while, that I'm not 18 years old and that I have the pct gear ready. So I'm not that terrible, I would say. And I don't want to be an example for anyone.
Thanks for your help.
Cheap???? Dang bro, juice was never CHEAP. Not where I was living anyways. LMAO Now it's cheap.
At least in Spain roids were cheap and were not regulated. And pharma grade, of course. Nowadays you don't know what you're buying. Fakes and underground labs is the norm.
RustyhookerExcellent! !! I hope he understands just how much your knowledge will jet pack him prior to starting.
Agree sir. Hope though there's a few willing to listen. $500 bucks to cycle for 15 pounds OR eat up a natural 15 pounds THEN cycle for 30 pounds gained in a year.
Rustyhooker6 foot tall 171 and 11% bf. This is what it shows. This correct or you have selfie to post? Folks are trying to steer you right so your goals are met.
how do you upload pics here
here is a link to your pic
https://www.eroids.com/pics/me-before-cycle-0
A little less homo-ish than Big Dons Boys but dang eat a freaking sandwich already!
Is this the OP popeye80? Really? Dang, is he sick or something? I don't think he should be using anything. Looks like he needs to see a doc. Something wrong, bro.
RustyhookerNope. You can Google stats and pix pop up. Some of the newer guys tell op gtg and can't visualize the stats. .maybe pix help? The op is gonna run it so good luck and godspeed
I dunno bro.
"I have a Mercedes and a BMW in my driveway. I only want to drive the Benz. How do I do it?"
C'mon bro. Really?
"I have a proper girl and a sexy and horny girl. I only wish to use the proper one. How do I do it?" it was actually my question. But I get it, I get it.
RustyhookerIf you dunno how to stay horney on cycle you're gonna be in a tornado of disappointment. Especially when you're all buffed out and you 2 inch worm hides under the skin.
Suggest you do not cycle. But....YOLO! Because you don't care anyways
how is it guys like this seem to collect karma?
What are you talking about man, seriously. And you can collect all the karma that you want, have mine as well, what kind of childish game is that? I'm here in this forum so I can understand better, gather more information and choose rightly. I don't care about all those little games that you are playing and your "oh look at this guy, he is fucked up, right guys?" fucking ego shit there. Have a nice one.
RustyhookerYou're a clown and a fool. Top guys on this site gave you spoonfed info and you took a big dump on it. Go find your yolo self. You ask questions that you would know had you listened. But you wont. You're here to troll and roll.
No worries. Folks like you always returned broken. See ya soon!
No, I came here just to laugh at you. I don't have anything better to do.
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popeye80 3 weeks ago @Catalyst
yes sure,
more or less this is what i eat every day:
Breakfast (8am): 4 eggs (not only white), oats with banana, peanut butter, walnuts, greek yogurt.
Before lunch (11am): turkey sandwich, 2 eggs.
Lunch (2pm): if possible, red meat, salad, dessert (fruits, yogurt, ice cream, etc) If not chicken. 2 eggs. Sometimes pasta, rice, fish, etc. Everyday I change here.
Before gym: creatine, dextrose. After gym: protein shake/weight gainer
Snack time: turkey sandwitch, donuts.
Dinner (9pm): meat, pasta, whatever I didn't ea for lunch. Eggs.
Before going to sleep (12 pm): protein shake.
If I'm not sleeping yet, I go to the kitchen and grab some ice cream, yogurt, fruit, sandwich or whatever I have.
ops diet, sent him up too diet clinic 3 weks ago, he got the karma by pretending he listened and good attitude, obviously a cover up to try and get cycle advice now, does not care for diet at all.
How the fuck do you know that, bro? Are you following me everyday and watching what I eat? Why are you accusing me of that? Are you retarded?
RustyhookerBecause its clearly got your name cited on there. Still learning engwish?
Al menos intento aprender otros idiomas, capullo.
https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/1rst-cycle-advice
op has created multiple forums, some have been deleted, check this one out.
Karma is collected from others ascribing to YOLO.
Pics ... pics and diet ...
Don't ask for pics, it's intrusive apparently. I've been told today :o
I don't know how to upload a pic here, but I have one in my profile.
Diet has been modified accoridingly to your suggestions.
As you can see, I didn't lie about my stats. The pic shows it.
Any comments?
thank you