posted Wed, 07/11/2012 - 02:09
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Disappointed with the results
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My cycle:
1-16 weeks
-500mg Testoviron (ARL)
1-15 weeks
-500mg boldenone (ARL)
I'm in the ninth week. I only gained 4 kg. 4000Kcal every day. I weigh 92kg.
What do I do? Increase the Testoviron to 750mg a week? Or take some oral (eg, Anavar)?
Sorry for my english.
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CleyonWere you running any sort of AI? If not I'd be willing to bet that is your problem. Get some Arimidex, and take .5mg EOD, then watch your gains go through the roof.
Anonhow much are you training? there are many things that could be going on? how many cycles have you done before this one? how much rest are you getting? are you taking an ai? what are your estrogen levels? Adding another compound to try and make something happen is not very smart and doing things randomly without being able to answer any of the above questions is foolish.
In my country, it is not easy to ask for blood tests bro
guys on here have done them online for pretty cheap! if no-one posts the link then ask for it in the "general talk" forum
I would get a blood test to see if the test you are taking is properly dosed. we should all be doing this. and often. too many fakes, under-dosed gear and scammers out there.
exactly! get a blood test when things dont seem right! why waste all the time trying to figure out what the hell you need to tweak if the gear is the culprit!
Add some tren in there. The test at 750mg a week would make a small differnce nothing major. Sounds like you are a hard gainer but try some tren. If you add the tren I wouldn't worry with uping the test. If not then go to 750mg test a week and EAT lol =P My buddy is the same way with gaining and honestly once he got his diet in check with a small dose of tren he went up 15lbs. Orals are very hard on the liver so if you can avoid them then do it. Injectables are the way to go.
Anonvery foolish if you ask me to add another compound with determing what the real issue is.
im in an same cycle.. im in week ten.. gained ca. 5 kg.. but i lost BF and my muscle hardness will be better every week.. on train days a eat about 3700 kcal.. its enough for me .. 300 gr protein.. EQ is a quality mass gainer.. it tooks a very long time to kick in.. i think about 10-12 weeks.. you wont gain 15 kg with your stack.. be happy with quality gains that you can keep in your pct
I took arks test iron. It's definitely legit, and some of the best test I've used period! However, the cycle your running is a mass gainer, if your not eating you won't gain. I'm eating 6500 calories a day and on week 13 of the same cycle. The results are definitely coming within week 10-12 if you continue eating! Don't give up
I never give up!
thanks bro
The question should also be what was your bf% before you started and to date? You might have lost a lot of body fat and increased muscle mass but yet only gained 4kg. If thats the case then you are doing good.
My bf is the same bro
1) increase your protein intake
2) bump test to 600 and eq to 800 imo, at 500/wk eq you ate only getting the joint benefits
3) change up your training routine
4) finish out the cycle you have planned, and don't add any orals (except maybe anavar)
5) are you taking an ai like atomasin or arimadex? Estro could be too high, or too low..
I'm taking 0.25 mg anastrozole daily. I should add to this anavar cycle to achieve some gains? And in the next cycle increased dosage to 600mg Test E and 800mg EQ?
AnonI've heard aromasin is one of the better AIs to take on cycle. Might be worth looking into.
I think you should get blood work done. It sounds like you think the gear is bad. Theres one sure fire way to find out. And it also sounds like you're trying to bulk. I don't know your cycle history but you made poor compound choices for bulking. Not that EQ is a poor choice ,it's just a good addition to a bulking cycle IMO. You won't make insane gains with EQ /Test. You'll make quality ,lean gains.
I would have went with Pro-test400 ,Deca, EQ for bulking!
in my country is not easy to order blood :-(
zewiTo be honest I would have just gone with Test E. However, I believe Testoviron should be taken 3 times a week since it has both propionate and Test E. I would be doing 750mg a week Monday Wednesday Friday. And i would take that Bold up to 600mg a week.
Just my two cents.
Testoviron ARL is enantanto testosterone
X2. Especially if you've cycled a lot in the past.
Testoviron is only test-e brother
Testoviron is made up with the Testosterone Enanthate AND Testosterone Propionate compounds, Mate.
I thought the same thing
On the ARL website it says Testosterone Enanthate (Testoviron)
zewiwell they should not label it as Testoviron.
MMMM. Okay. You could listen to the ARL website, or you could listen to someone who has actually taken, produced AND sold it, or you could take a quick look at this:
http://www.testoviron.com/
Or you could do some more searches of your own to find out what Testoviron is actually made up of.
The choice is yours, Mate
I know what testoviron is made up of but ARL testoviron is Test E.
Its like Enanplex is Test E. Its just what Arl calls it
Yes it's test e. no prop. Just finished it
Damn, I didnt even know lol
We're all here to learn a little something, Mate
I'd bump it to 750 dude I bump my test on cycle every 4 weeks up to 1g
I'd always be looking to be adding something like Anadrol or Dianabol with Testoviron.
It's an, 'Okay', test, but I only ran it as a coaster because of it's two Test E & P compounds. I'd personally never take it on it's own or with only EQ as a brother load.
You're dosage is okay, but I'd definitely look at adding a high oral into the mix IF this is your choice of juice, Mate.