Diet for Deca Cycle
The cut and paste did not come out so pretty, but the format is listed in total Cals, Protein, Carbs, Fat. I think I have the right foods in place, just at twice the normal daily on my high carb foods, explained below. I'm not totally certain that I have it tweaked for a Deca bulking cycle and if Eq would help this diet to achieve what I am after.
My average daily intake is listed below; 3882 calories daily: Protein 428g, Carbs, 381g, Fat 56g. I'm letting the carbs run high because I just dropped tren-e at 750mg/week. No carbs after 3:00 PM.
Now, I put more healthy foods into this on a daily basis, anything from an extra banana to a slice of peanut butter toast... I tend to gauge that by my feeling that day.
I'm at 206 lbs right now with a bf below 14% (5'10" - waist 35") and looking to get more than 20-lbs of healthy weight gain out of a 12-week Deca/Test/d-bol cycle. http://www.eroids.com/cycle_logs/cycle-3-0
The basic platform I am headed to is Deca 600mg/week - Test 1250mg/week front loaded with NPP 450mg/week and d-bol 60mg ed x 4-6 weeks. I may run the Deca up to 900mg/week, just depends how it settles with me. I'm also thinking of adding Eq into this???
I'm concerned about those carbs and considering dropping: half the meusli, half the yogurt, and half the rice... that's over 400 calories gone off the rip, but if I sub Protein shakes x 3 with 2 egg whites in each shake, that should put me in good shape?
What I absolutely do not want to do is let that waist line hit over 40" again like it was last December.
Food Size Units Caolories Protein Carbs Fat
Brown Rice 1 cups 4 864 20 180 8
Egg Whites 1 cups 3 351 78 6 0
Whole Egg 2 lg 2 180 16 0 12
Chicken Breast 100g 6 1266 246 0 24
Broccoli 1 cups 1 31 3 0 0
Meusli 1 cups 1.5 433.5 12 99 6
Skim Mile 1 cups 1 83 8 5 0
Bananna 1 medium 1 105 1 27 0
Mackerel 100g 0.86 134.16 19.78 0 5.16
Low Fat Yougurt 150g 3 354 22.5 60.3 1.2
Large Salad cup 3 81 2.52 4.2 0.54
3882.66 428.8 381.5 56.9
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when I used deca I was running 800-900g carbs and 160g fats per day. I ate 290g proteins that were 100% from foods not shakes
and I grew so damn much what's funny is I lost a ton of fat from that cycle too stayed VERY lean
shirlsguydouble-checking the protein..... 290g????
That's right all 290g protein came from meat, dairy, or a small amount from other food sources. I don't count protin shakes so I was more likely closer to 350g with the shakes.
yes protein is good, but if you are bulking you want high fats (unsaturated mostly) and very high carbs. The deca and dbol will cause excess glycogen retention so carbs are a must. The more fats and carbs you have, the less total protein you need. Especially for my body type I need extremely high carbs & fat if I want to gain any size.
I've tried going straight 450g protein and low carb/fat diet and my gains were extremely minimal.
Bulking is all about calories and you really don't need 500g protein to gain muscle
At 200lbs, your protein is ok at about 1.4g/lb. personally I like to eat 2g/lb but I'm a greedy bastard that loves good food.
shirlsguyI'm actually above 400g per day and adding protein shakes tomoz. I was questioning J223 if he meant to put 290g, but sounds like you would agree. I always like to use 2g protein/lb of my target weight as a goal. I will be approaching 500g protein for the next several weeks... mostly to compensate for dropping carbs by more than 100g daily. I just rid myself of a 46" gut (40" waist) and I do NOT want it back on this run.
X2. It's a bulker, gotta eat to grow.
I'm running deca at the moment and our shopping bill has gone up 50%
shirlsguyWhat I'm looking to hear! Yeah, I've already noticed my food bill going up, up, and away!!!!
im runninig 1200 test e 600 deca and 600 eq rite in week 6, good cycle good gains up 9kgs!!!
Don't really like your test to deca ratio mate, I know it's a bit old fashioned but the 2:1 guideline works nicely and leads to less likelihood of deca related issues. Obviously everyone is different, so you may have run it this way before but to me it's got a reasonable slice of deca dock potential run this way.
Just noticed I typed "deca dock" lmao!
shirlsguyThat is the kind of feedback I am looking for... now to figure out how to get there... could run SUS250 M-F.. I love SUS That puts me at 1250 good enough for the 600 Deca. Now, if it is just Deca Dick to consider, I'm not too worried about a limp noodle for a bit, but if it is muscle mass returns... that makes it well worth it... SUS is about as expensive as rain water and pinning ed is not a problem. "Old Fashioned" muscle is pretty much what I am looking for; well rounded shoulders and bulging biceps. Really got to get my legs going too, they are falling behind fast.
To me, if Test is at 1200+, then running Deca higher would seem a waste... at least this run?
I'm running test / sust / deca / Anadrol at the moment. Doses I don't want viewed in the public forums if you catch my drift ;) can talk through with you on pm though if you want a second opinion etc.
Depending on experience level and previous cycles I like a spectrum of test on these sort of runs (a long ester test AND sust), so that's another option. I like mon wed fri for sust pins, can do 2 on the deca obviously.
Drop me a line if you need anything ok?
shirlsguyFR sent, but out for the evening... steak tonight at the club... giant ribeye and .... well talk about something I don't want to put in public.... "more food" waiting on me after my workout! No alcohol, though, it messes with my cycle BAD!