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Did my first test shot

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Did my first test shot ever on sunday, and still pain, doesn't really hurt just feels like there's a bruise on my ass, is this normal

Broseidon's picture

I had bad bruises the first couple of shots but I was also using a 20g pin lol, which may have caused a lot of the pip also. Anyway my body got used to it after my 6-8th shot and the pip basically stopped , as well as any site pains.

axezrr's picture

Alright guys 10 days into cycle, start I weigh 203 and now I weigh 212, so 9lb gain so far

- K A P S I Z E -'s picture

sorry to burst your bubble bro, but that most likely water retention and nitrogen retention at this point. keep at it and the lean tissue will come. and your experincing a bit of pip because its your first cycle and your shooting into virgin muscles, dont fret. it gets much easier

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axezrr's picture

Okay 4th shot went perfect no pain what so ever, even the needle didn't hurt, feels like I didn't even take a shot

Keez's picture

I told ya it gets easier bruva. I knew it wouldn't be long before you threw up a post saying it went well.

axezrr's picture

3rd shot went okay muscle doesn't hurt from the shot just the skin,needle didn't break through the skin easy ,weight is up to 206 from 203, so three lbs in 1 week which I know it isnt from the test since it hasn't kicked in

Keez's picture

It's just using virgin injection sites. Ya soon get used to it. Double check your form and equipment. You'll soon look forward to your next shot

axezrr's picture

All pain is gone plus from both shots, and I'm already looking forward to Sundays shot

Keez's picture

Your half way there bruva.
Just try to rotate your sites. Quads and glutes are easiest for me.
The more site options you have, the less chance any problems will arise.

axezrr's picture

An other question does pop affect gains when on aas

axezrr's picture

Now I got the mind set of me wanting and looking forward my injections lol , been about 6 days since my first one, when should I be feeling it kicking in

tonytulo's picture

3 to 4 weeks for the ester to build in your system.

axezrr's picture

Revised Diet

Meal 1 Cals Fats Carbs Pro
Eggs 4 360 8 32
Oatmeal 1/2 cup / Milk 300 11 39 11
Peanut butter 400 32 18 12
1060 51 57 55

Meal 2
Chicken 8oz 220 4 4. 42
Rice 1/4 cup. 160. 0. 36. 3
Peanut butter 4 tbsp. 400. 32. 18. 12
780. 36. 58. 57

Meal 3
Steak Strips 9oz. 462. 18. 3. 69.
Rice 1/4 cup. 160. 0. 36. 3
Peanut Butter 4 tbsp. 400. 32. 18. 12
1022. 50. 57. 84

Same as Meal 2. 780. 36. 58. 57

Protein shake with milk. 350. 12. 21. 38
Twice a day

Total. 4342. 197. 272. 329

axezrr's picture

My diet stated below I can't eat it all and I really wanna make this work, so I'm gonna cut the meat down to around 8 to 9oz and eggs down to 4 and the oatmeal in half and some of the rice

mmallday's picture

I prefer the quads, less pip for me, easy to inject

axezrr's picture

Okay I just did my second shot today, first shot was in the left glute today was in the right, my shot today there was a little blood after I pulled needle out, but when injecting I pull a tad bit but no bleed was seen then

whoremoans's picture

virgin muscle pip. happens to most I wouldn't worry. i'd take a warm shower after the inject and even place a heating pad on it after to help the oil resolve. some like to workout after and inject the muscle they workout that day but in your case i'd stick with the glutes for now. maybe towards the end your cycle you may want to incorporate the delts or quads. But only when you're comfortable.

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cd1's picture

What's your condition like at 230 lb? As you say your looking to gain between 20 - 30 lb more which is going to put you in the big boy league. ..I'm going to hold fire on advice until a picture is posted as you may be given misleading advice

axezrr's picture

I don't weigh 230, I'm 203

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Should I did my shots every 3 days or everyday Sunday and wendesday, or does it even matter

Makwa's picture

Sunday morning and wed night would be 3.5 days apart, so I would stick with that schedule

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My diet is
6 eggs
1 cup dry oatmeal,
4 tbsp of nat pb

12oz chicken
1 cup rice
4 tbsp of nat pb

12oz Steak
1 cup rice
2 tbs of nat pb

Same as meal 4

Then
Creatine
Bcaa
Nos
Protein shakes 2 a day

Wanna gain about 20 to 30lbs

Makwa's picture

What is daily macro split at and how many cals are you aiming for each day? Are you eating enough above your TDEE?

axezrr's picture

I added it up once don't remember them I know it's around 1k cal per meal

Makwa's picture

Are you getting in 5-6 meals/day?

axezrr's picture

Eating 4 solid meals 6 if you count the protein shakes

axezrr's picture

Just test e 300mg twice a week length of cycle just depends on what sides I get, goal just gain most muscle I can

miggymig's picture

welcome to the dark side!

Makwa's picture

How many mls did you pin? What is the concentration of the test? What gauge needle did you use? Is the site red/swollen/hot to the touch? Is the pain getting worse or better?

axezrr's picture

23g just one ml 300mg, nothing is there just sore, pain has decrease a bit

Makwa's picture

Should be ok then. PIP should get less as you get better at pinning and the muscles get used to having something injected into them. Lots of forums on reducing pip. Search pip with the blue magnifying glass up top.

freedom1981's picture

where did you do the first shot ? does anyone did it to you ? your satate please ? how old are you ?
many question before you get an answer., you will experince another things too .

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axezrr's picture

Left glute, did it myself, I'm 27

Livelife76's picture

Virgin muscle, yes it's normal. Have a solid site rotation (4 minimum sites) that will help ALOT, what mg is the test, need more info

Post cycle, ai, dose, pct, n goals please

axezrr's picture

Looking at 12 weeks 300mg e3d
Clomid at 50mg for 4 weeks will add more or other meds if necessary