-2 Deca only cycle
I've been reading about some guys who are trying Deca only cycles and having success. But anytime someone mentions this on a forum, others on the forum always jump in and tells them what an idiot, dumbass, pussy, etc they are for not running test with their Deca, or whatever other steroid they're taking, because they will be shutdown with no test. Here are my thoughts from my research:
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ALL steroids will shut you down(make your body produce less of its own test), and the last time I looked testosterone was a steroid. So adding test to a deca only cycle will only shut you down even more than deca alone
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Deca only aromatizes at only 20% of the rate of test., so adding test to a deca cycle means MORE estrogen conversion, meaning more ancillaries (arimidex, aromasin, etc) will have to be taken
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Not everyone has the exact same identical goals. If someone wants to do a deca only cycle, fine. If someone wants to do a test only cycle, fine. If someone wants to combine the 2, then that's fine. So why give the person hell for whatever cycle they want to do? My guess is that those who sell steroids and ancillaries want to sell as much as possible, so they will always encourage others that they must run test with every cycle. And if everyone must run test, then more ancillaries will need to be sold to combat the estogen conversion from test. And instead of thinking this out for themselves, many of the people on the forums just follow the crowd and chirp along with the old saying of "you gotta run test with every cycle"
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Deca only is about the dumbest fuckjng thing I have ever heard
-1 for being dumb
https://dailymed.nlm.nih.gov/dailymed/drugInfo.cfm?setid=3f059e04-1ebc-4...
I personally don't like Deca, makes me depressed.
Try your trt test, add 600mg primo... real primo.
Jordan Peters loves primo, you can run a higher amount of primo instead of running a higher amount of test when you 'blast' again, then add your fav 19 nor to it. Or an oral if you don't get on with 19 nors.
You forgot cunt and twig.
Smh.
I would take the good old advice from the veterans here of the forum i did that 2 ;)
If you do it you will have a nice limp deca dick and bigger tits then a streetwh####re haha lol
Smh ... the stupidity never seems to amaze me here
Belongs to the dosage/roid u run. No wrong it doesn't.
No not really there are much different bloods I've seen...if you sensible then you'll have also very high e2 with test only. If you're not so sensible u can run both without needing some ari or aro!
3.Bullshit .... Do you ask your seller for advice or what?
I didnt read your post as advice, but it seems you have jumped from thinking test on cycle causes issues to look at alternatives. Why not focus on dialing test in? Most people give more attention to dialing their AI in than their test which is ass before cart.
There is limilted info out there on the doses run in the 60s and 70s + 80s during deca only cycles. It all changed in BB from the 80s but more so the 90s onwards so Internet data is limited.
If I were you, I'd look outside of forums like this or YouTube to get real info on how Deca is being used in androgen therapy. Start with the academic stuff and then check out the usage by aids patients.
Your suspicions are there for a reason, but you need to focus on the issue rather than the symptoms and if you go beyond that then real research..... and you might end up realising that it's not all or nothing, either way
Stop listening to 'Tony Idiot Huges' and learn from real pros. All that guys advice is around selling his own products. He's never once talk about only running cycles when you're in a certain condition/body fat. Because he wants to sell his stuff regardless what kind of health your end. He will sell DNP/rat poison to anyone that slightly overweight instead of suggesting we do cardio. And then another episodes he's promoting the use of insulin which is taboo in this industry. But again he doesn't care if it will kill people, because it makes him look cool on YouTube.
So this is coming from YouTube lol
I should've known
Tony idiot Hughes im going to check it out for a good laugh
PPG hit it right in the fuckin head about that guy. It takes about 1 min through one of his videos to figure out what he's up to. And his "advice" is straight up looney tunes. Guy is wreckless.
The first video ever watched of his was him eating a pile of junk food and then taking 1,000 mg of DNP to avoid dieting or eating correctly. Then he goes back to his hotel room and openly takes a date rape drug because it helps him sleep. Then when he wakes up he's groggy and feels hung over so he injects a shit load of insulin so he has energy for the gym. Everything this guy does from start to finish is retarded. He looks for the easy/lazy way out of everything because he can sell that type of stuff/products to the fat and skinny people that think they want to be bodybuilders but cannot handle the lifestyle.
Tony Huges does videos on running Deca only cycles at 1,500-3,000mg a week by it self lol
Wtf did you accidentally put an extra 0 in there lol
Nope lol! No Caber or ai needed according to his people on 3,000mg per week of Deca only lol.
I fucking hate when people put out that kind of info
Im going to jump in on this and say if you want to run a decca only cycle you will eventually find out why people don't do a decca only cycle.
If you're worried about having and taking an ai and caber then you should just run a test only cycle low test dose but no matter what you are going to need an ai on hand and if you're running a nor19 have caber or prami ,bromo.
Why not use a low test dose with a compound that doesn't convert to estrogen.
Like a dht or dhb you could even run a low test dose with Proviron. So many choices that will be a positive cycle not a shot in the dark running decca only when you know that you haven't been reading about decca only cycles being successful and if you have please provide a link im always interested in hearing about new ideas. I just don't believe that it would be true.
If you ran just decca you would be exposed to shutting down your natural Testosterone which would in turn make your estro levels higher than your test levels which still leaves you open to gynecomastia and the need to have an ai on hand.
Yeah I just read a deal talking about 100 Mg injection reducing test levels by 50 % just three days after and a 100 % shut down in a week. No test = no good for you. This guy ....
100mg decca shut down after a wk?
I don't think that is true but in about 3-4 wks you will definitely be around tanked Nandrolone Decanoate is a long ester takes time to nock you down but it will eventually
I shot of deca shuts one down for like a month or something if I remember correctly. It's really harsh on the Hpta which is weird because it's very mild to run.
http://jpet.aspetjournals.org/cgi/content/full/281/1/93
This is what I read.
People get night sweats and sleep disturbed first night after pinning tren E. It's a long esters but the sides come quick.
Thats a great read its crazy that site inj had a effect on the Nandrolone. Also they shot Nandrolone intervenes thats crazy.
I really appreciate you posting that.
Thats a great study
Wait... there an actual study where they mainlined deca? Wtf?
That was my exact reaction
Go hard! Or go Home!
Testosterone will not shut you down " more " man. It gives your body a form of testosterone while your natural production is shut down. You are free to your opinion. But my advice is further your education before you contemplate running anything. Do what you wnat to yourself i suppose but dont help anyone else until you learn much more. Screwing up yourself is one thing.... but screwing up someone else is whole different ballgame. Be responsible.
Wow..negative karma for expressing an opinion that might be different from the gods
I said nothing about this site and I'm not pushing anything on anyone. I said anyone should be able to do whatever cycle they want (including an oral only cycle if that suits their goal(s)) and share the results without fear of being bashed and/or called every name in the book. Maybe someone can elaborate from personal experience how a deca only cycle went, instead of just chirping the same old rhetoric. I'm interested in both safety AND honesty. And if that offends anyone, then they must have a guilty conscience because I don't direct my comment to anyone or any site in particular, only basing it on the many bodybuilding forums I've visited.
RustyhookerYou posted up your opinion without any facts. It was written as advice to others. Yet, your stats meagerly express there's no gym or gear in your own world.
Reply button is at the top right of each post. Use it.
I'm sorry to say this but this post just stuns me.
What are you goals in posting this? Simply to say, "try whatever you like"? Yes, its your body , go right ahead. The point of forums such as this is to educate and inform. Hopefully ,so everyone can optimize their performance, not just throw darts and hope they hit. Why come to forums like this and then disregard years of knowledge and experience in this field?
You mention research. Is this theory and no practice? Experience in the field?
A deca only cycle is never the way to go. The only compound I ever encourage to run as stand alone is Test..
Have you ever heard of some having "Test-Dick"? Of course not. Have you heard of the term "Deca-Dick"? Right there , that should tell you something. Deca-Dick is complete and total shut down so much so that the act of sexual arousal is impossible. Test-Dick is usually a raging hardon that you can fuck for hours on.
This is all basic and simplistic, but you can see where this is going.
Also your statement about using less ancillaries while on Deca could not be further from the truth.
On Deca, always, one needs to use even more ancillaries in order to keep prolactin levels along with estrogen in check. A problem usually never seen in Test only.
Of course like you said , think for yourself, don't listen to anyone, and do what you want.
But do not forget that the point of forums like this is, again is to optimize your performance. Deca by itself simply will not.
Good luck to you.
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your body needs testosterone to function correctly. Even if it's just a small amount. Not just your sex drive, but brain and bodily functions as well.
Rusty already said anything else I'd have to add
You will most likely totally shut down your sex drive just running deca.
RustyhookerBecause if you dont like the workings of this site, you can go elsewhere. We're more interested in safety first.
If you choose to be a guinea pig then you do it. But dont go pushing it here.