posted Tue, 05/22/2012 - 15:16
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deca dbol test e cycle
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my buddy wants to do a second cycle and he wants to run dbol kicker...test e and deca is that overkill for his second cycle hes around 26..200lbs pretty lean i dont no his stats to well should i advise him to do it or what i dont know the doses but could find out thanks bros
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thanks guys for all the great info
1st off you should tell your buddy to go to WWW.EROIDS.COM and do his own research. He needs to learn the shit himself. Now if he comes to you with ideas and it sounds like he has read a few hundred hours on the shit then give him a pointer or 2. The only advice that guy needs is to do some research before he picks up a pill or a pin.
Take one or the other brother, tell him to pick one! if its the deca then it looks like this
test-e/c 1-14 600mg/w
deca 1-12 400mg/w
adex .25 E3D 1-16
caber .5 E3D 3-14
PCT 17-21 clomid 100/100/50/50
nolva 40/40/20/20
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D-bol 1-4 30mg/d
test-e/c 1-12 500mg/w
adex .25 E3D 1-14
PCT 15-19 clomid 100/100/50/50
nolva 40/40/20/20
I think he's be better off running the test and deca for 8-10 weeks. As he down cycles the deca toward the end of the cycle gradually introduce the dbol(I'll spare you the science logic). Keep the test the same during the transition. I suggest this because I know he's going to do it no matter what we say. I would when I was younger. Total cycle length 12-15 weeks. Good luck!
tread-mHENCE THE "bitch tit". All makes sense now! Lol
Funny shit. Lol!
what? D-bol at the end of a cycle is useless other then the strength gain why would you recommend that? Down cycles? what? why would you down cycle? and its his second cycle! on this site we dont promote more than one new compound per cycle! If you want to give that advice you can but you wont be doing it on this board!
Sorry bro. Didn't see that in the rules. You got it.
Shouldn't ya run deca for at least 12 weeks though?
Good point brother. I was thinking NPP but should have clarified/asked. Either one tho if he hit the 8-10 week mark and started down cycling and transitioning the dbol in I would recommend cutting out the deca over a few weeks so it probably would boost that time up ultimately just not at his highest dosage. Eroids seems to be a pretty conservative community and cautious when it comes to newbs. I know if it were me back then I would run 500mg (start at 250) of test per week and gradually introduce both dbol and deca monitoring my sides until I hit my "affordable dosage max" for the length of cycle financially allowed. Then I would down cycle them both at the same time continuing to run my test for another 4 weeks after they were both "out of my system." Science isn't always right with individuals and I'm more about blasting receptors and monitoring how they affect me then the general populous. But that's me.
He said test E, so I just figured it to be long deca...otherwise you would want to run prop w/ NPP, right? Ungh..dbol, I just don't know...thrown in at the end? I mean, I have heard this before...maybe it's too much broscience for me. Wouldn't there be something better? Just all that water at the end and all, phew...not a fan of dbol, I guess. Ever think maybe running some winny or var at the end of deca to be beneficial? Just curious...like a little light 'clean-up' at the end of a bulk session, or would it be a waste of time/money?
Too much bro science. Not that there isn't validation, but two cycles side by side npp/prop vs Deca/e there are too many other factors to say one is better ie training, time of inject, time of training vs inject, level of training experience etc. then add in genetic make up, sensitivity in general to exogenous substance... Too much IMO. Don't want to thread nap but as far as ur next question winny always has a place in my heart! U never know what combination will work best for u based on others results. Many guys I know use winny or var at the and of cycles to preserve muscle. It depends what the dismorphic voice in ur head is telling you!
2-1 ratio test to deca. Might try prop if he wants kicker so its simple test and deca cycle. In forums last week another guy asked similar question. Think the gurus said 500Mg test and 325deca. IMO its best to start simple. Ai on hand and correct pct. Long chain juice so shoot for 12wk cycle.
tread-mToo much in issue to go wron for a second cycle running dbol and a 19 for a newb. For me I'd much rather kick a test/deca cycle with npp and prop but in his case either a prop kick to a test cycle or a mild dbol Kick IF NOT PRONE TO GYNO. MUCH PREFER A PROP KICK TO A TEST RUN THIS NEW TO GEAR...SLOW DOWN
Run NPP w/ Prop as the 'whole' kicker to a Test E/NanDeca cycle?...So you would get the 19 kickstarted in your system too?...or am I missing the point here?
tread-mNope, kicking both for 4 weeks cycle starts today! Lol...npp is short deca and prop is short test.
I had this running through my head the other day wondering if it would work for my upcoming cycle. Sounds interesting. I understand the "cycle starts today" concept with the NPP/PROP kick start.I would like to see how this would lay out in a total cycle. Mixing the long and short, NPP/PROP for 4 weeks and then DECA/TEST E or C. Love the DECA, and learning more about NPP. Would like to see this laid out. Tread PM will be sent. Very interested in this.
tread-m"Planning ahead MASS cycle"...just bumped it.
tread-mLet me find where I laid this out recently and I'll bump it for you to see...bout 5 minutes here....
Yeah, I know NPP is short ester deca...just never heard of kickstarting w/ test prop too as a ALL IN ONE kickstart to a LONG ester test E/deca cycle, comprende?
Today huh?...4 week cycle, better be careful dawg! HAHA...
tread-m"Planning ahead MASS cycle"...just bumped it
Doesnt sound overkill compared to what he could run for a second cycle , but unneccesary ..yes