posted Sat, 02/25/2012 - 09:19
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+ 1 Dbol + Sus 250 Cycle advice
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20 Years Old
Experience in Training
Good Nutrition
First Cycle
Week 1-4 -> 4 tabs a day of Dianabol
Week 1 -> 250mg Sustanon 250
Week 2-7 -> 500mg Sustanon 250
Week 8 -> 250mg Sustanon 250
Week 4-8 -> 1 tab a day of Nolvadex
Week 6-8 -> 1 tab a day of Clomid
Hi guys, what are your opinions of this cycle?
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ok bro the safest way to do all this and you should not guess because everyone is different some guys taking 500 and up of sust may hve been doing it for a while heroin addicts can do alot more dope than a begginer if a beginner addict took the same amount as a longterm addict it would kill him quickly..(just making a point) first you should do a hormone test to see where your test numbers are should be around 380 to 1000 being very aggressive once you hve these numbes then you start with 250 mg wait about 3 or 4 weeks then do another blood test to see where your at . its a numbers thing once you get over a certain amount its counter productive and you begin into the side effects realm.. your health is the number one concern be smart do it right
and pct is called POST cycle treatment so why would you run it during your cycle, not trying to be a dick but if you dont know that then you are not even close to ready using gear
bro your to young
Thanks for the help and advice.
What size needles are recommended for glute injections?
I like to use 1 1/2 20 g. But 22-23 gauge r fine
Haha props for using harpoons i did my first cycle with 18 guagw needles from tractor supply all i uae are 25 guage now
18 guage! Holy shit man, I'm using 23g right now, and those are painless. But I have 18's I'm drawing with, and just looking at the size of that fucking needle gives me the creeps.
Yea really had to get psyched up to use em
Lol yeah i hear that. I have hard times pushin that oil thru 23 sometimes even when i heat it up.
So i said fuck it!!! Went with the 20 they draw so fast:) and to be honest i have less pain using the bigger needle. Weird right.
Okay here's my 2 cents. I always run dbol for like 6-8 weeks cuz I am still getting gains. Keep the sust at 500mg everyweek into 2 shots a week for 12-15 weeks. Only run the nolva if gyno arises otherwise wait till the end. Sum estrogen is okay it helps the body gain weight. Too much is bad of course and causes boobies. But hey this is what works best for my body everyone is different. Good luck
You could probably gain of dbol taking it year round but that dont mean you should 6 weeks is pushing it 8 is just destructive
So instead run 500mg of Sustanon 250 for 12 weeks.
With nolva coming in at week 9 with 40/40/20/20
and clomid coming in at week 9 with 100/100/50/50
No bro, the clomid is used as pct after cycle to help recover!
Run the sus till week 12. I wouldnt stay on 15weeks since this is prob ur first cycle.
The sust stays in ur system like around 3 weeks. So start ur pct about 3 weeks after your last shot. Do not start the pct while still oncycle.
I would just run the clomid pct. you dont need the nolva. Just my pref brother.
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Yes def run the sus longer, 8 weeks too short run it out about 12 weeks. Is this your 1st time using sus? If so stick with 250 per week, i had excellent results first time at 250 running it out 10 weeks. Also i agree with the other post first off you young as shit n have plenty a natty test n ur system why dont u wait couple more years bro? I was actually 28 when i ran my first sus cycle and it was @ 250 per week n diet flawless my results were awsome! Gained about 12 solid lean gains no water!!
Why a low dose first week then bump up? Keep yout dose consistent and imo 8 weeks is much to short for sust it has longer esters in it that will be just taking effect . I dont know the dose on your pct but i would suggest you go with a stronger one clomid 100/100/50/50 nolva 40/40/20/20. How do you plan to inject most of the type you get the most out of sust with eod injects so you can make the best of short esters . I dont believe you have researched much start googling on esters and there effects and durations i dont think you understand sust. Also at your age 250 a week waste of time that will just cancel out your natural test go with 500. And you dont need the dbol first cycle sust has short esters no need for kickstart imo