posted Sat, 02/08/2014 - 04:53
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Dbol on off days?
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I'm about start a new cycle I'm going to do week
1-10 400mg test cyp
1-10 300mg npp
1-10 .25mg adex eod
1-10 500 iu hcg weekly
1-4 35mg dbol
My question is do you take dbol on off days? Also does my cycle look ok to you?
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RustyhookerPost stats and goal. Noone is supposed to post answers til we get clear picture. Age changes answers. So does goals, priors and bf//height/weight
I added that to my profile. Do I need to have it in this forum?
RustyhookerI'll work on 50+ different forums per day plus pm and si pages as well. It helps vets answer fully so you get a complete answer without me having to research you.
Its near spring so dbol also comes into goals as well as stats. Should you decide with your lil experience to be lean and cut for beach body then dbol is right out the window.
Help us...to help you. Everyones friendly here.
Ok I'm 28 I've done 3 cycles
1st was 400 test c for 10 weeks
2nd and 3rd were 400 test c and 300 npp for 10 weeks
I'm 6'-3" 230 lbs roughly 15% body fat
Really I'm just looking for more muscle mass, I'm not as worried about a beach body as I am putting on more mass. I eat good but to be honest I definitely have some room for improvement. I've been working out religiously for 4 years and was off and on for some time before that.
If I missed anything I should have please let me know
RustyhookerWith your goals it would be easier with prop as listed below. 8 injection points and small 25x1 pins will make things easy for you. Have real caber/prami on hand incase Ed pops up. Many dudes run it low dose as protection of prolactin. Blood test at week 4 will assist with prolactin and estradiol. Map the body for greater success.
Dbol can be skipped on off days. Let's liver get s small break. Run liver protectors. I split mine up thru the day. 1.5 hrs preworkout. Every 4 hours i hit 1/3 total daily dose. 6am....noon.....6pm as example.
Dbol with tablespoon peanut butter. Crush/chew tabs. Can sublingual til swallowed. Pbutter blicks stomach acids and helps breakdown to get better absorption. Another option is grapefruit juice. Theres a great forum on gfruit juice and dbol/Winny.
Adex on hand as needed. Dbol converts quickly and so does prop. Nips get funky start your protochols. .25e3d is typical...if sensitive .25eod....
Caber.. .25 e3d is standard beginning dose but there's controversy on caber and prami. I prefer to use it and not stress.
Gearhead has you correct below. Detroit Nate has a great forum on npp. Suggest magnifying glass and read it.
Food sets your goals. I prefer to eat big when bulking and modify cardio to keep bf in check. Hydrate. Avoids cramps. Hope this helps. Welcome to eroids
Just curious, how long are you guys typically waiting/how long does it take for you guys to notice estro sides with prop and test--before you take your AI.
RustyhookerDepends on protochol for estro used and Esters as well as bf% and how your individual body converts test into estro. Some guys can run longer with no worries at all and estro crashes with even lil doses of an ai. Other guys on here have had to use letro to do even a simple test only cycle. Knowing your reactions is why it's advised to run a few test only cycles prior to adding extra compounds. When i kick with prop and bf is higher i start ai when nips feel like someone twisted en....usually day 10-12 & start at low dose. Masteron helps many folks but again, its knowing your personal reactions.
Safest bet is having good ai on hand always. Listening to body. Blood tests and mapping reactions. Have a backup of aromasin as example since there's been some guts that were non-responsive to adex but did well on low doses aro. Again, that comes from priors.
Thank you man really appreciate you taking the time to help me. One crucial thing I now realize I left out is that I've been on trt since I was 25. I was diagnosed as secondary long before I ever touched a steroid. With being said I have a bunch of pharm grade test c I have saved up I was planning on using. I've tried prop once as a kick start but had to quit after a week or because it leaves me crippled. Do you see any problem with me sticking to the test c?
RustyhookerAhhhh. That will change things quite a bit and in your favor. Lil m issing links. Lol
Enanthates/cyp take roughly 4 Weeks to get to fully booming. So you don't want the short npp ester killing your pecker til that test is overriding the sex drive. If your weekly trt dose is 100....raise to 600. Week 4-10 run your npp at 300. 11-12 the 600 allows for npp clearance. Week 13 lower back to trt doses. You'll have to "feel" your ai dosing after your blast.
^^^^This^^^. +1
My question is do you take dbol on off days? Also does my cycle look ok to you?
Not, a big change, but if u r gonna run nandrolone short u might consider running Test prop and losing the dbol kicker. Stop the NPP two weeks before the Test. NPP can just be very suppressive and u want it cleared out prior to PCT. The prop will also glide you into PCT. U can hold that adex off till week 3-4 if u want, but I run an AI from day 1 because I have E2 problems. Post up the Nolva and Clomid - standard PCT is all that should be required of this short cycle. That is my 0.02 for what it's worth.
But, bro, we all spend time answering questions as a service, copping an attitude is really fucking annoying.
Great advice here, I would say dont wait till week 3 or 4 if youre gonna run the Dbol, I'm under the impression dbol aromatizes pretty quickly. Could be wrong. Im sure gearhead will clear it up.
Thanks for taking the time to share your thought I appreciate it man
I want to know who keeps giving me a thumbs down I did nothing wrong and all I asked for was stats before any advice can be given and had him call me names
Wasn't me bro. I may thumbs up folk and not say anything but if I'm gonna neg ya I will announce it let there be no mistake.
Send a PM to one of the MODs - they will know electronically and deal with it for ya. But, if it's not costing u any Karma (being done by someone below Level 1) - just let it go.
Brother I wasnt saying u did at all just got on and seen I had a thumbs down over asking for stats lol not mad I'm over it.your very knowledgeable read your stuff like to send u an fiend request if I Ever have any questions
Of course u can send me a FR bro. I know there are some peckers that go through threads just thumbing shit up and down. If it's bothering u that much and even though it isn't costing you karma - send a Mod then a PM.
I'm over it lol karma not even a big deal to me really just been here learning things and having so many knowledgeable people willing to help makes it all worth it to me. Iv learned so much in the short time iv been here hell feel like iv already won the grand prize
Ok I'll put stats up but I've done research and I've got conflicting answers, that's why I'm asking the question. So maybe you fucking pole smokers should just keep to yourself if you have nothing of value to add... I agree about the stats, I'm about to work on that
Your asking for help and then pissing on those who don't give you the answers you want!?! Change your path or this won't go well.
Wow was trying to help u but can't help u without stats sir and your attitude is the exact thing we don't need here at eriods. Everyone here holds each other to a high standard that's what makes this place great. Your post is so ridiculous if u had any basic knowledge of aas u would find it funny. U are not ready and no one will co sign someone that not ready. B respectful of people cause that kinda attitude u won't last long here
RustyhookerThere's your thumbs up. Dont forget that many use smart phones and any pressure will accidentally neg you. Typically it's not on purpose. When i neg someone i give them a reason as well.
Not asking for karma at all its all good and I'd love to send u an fr to all u guys have knowledge I could use and learn from iv got to say u given some great advice in my time here and say thank u for helping so much as in i read what u posted up top wow so thank u sir
Man I get what your saying and maybe I come off a little strong, sorry about that but I see people get blasted on here everyday for asking a question. This is my 3rd cycle, I know that I don't know everything but I feel I have good knowledge of the subject. Maybe instead of telling me I'm an idiot for asking that, explain to me why that is? I've read before to take it everyday and I've read people saying they only take it on training days days. I love eroids and I think it is a great wealth of knowledge but I feel people are to quick to flame others and belittle them instead of just helping them out and explaining why they are wrong
No stats, no advice.
Also, the question you are asking clearly shows you have not put much time amd effort into researching your cycle.
What's your stats ,goals, and cycle history need all your info before anyone can help. What do u mean do u take dbol on your off days just by saying that sounds like u need to put more time into research and understanding of these compounds
I read people say that they only take dbol on training days since the half life is so short
Post stats before anymore help