D-Bol Tren Test
Hello all I have done a cycle of tren/test over a year ago with no sides and great gains and I am looking to add D-bol to this cycle. I am currently waiting on my bloodwork for base stats but have been on 250 test TRT every 10 days the entire year. I am 43 5-11 weigh 225 with an 18% bf. My cycle will look like this:
Week 1-5 Dbol 25mg ED (if no sides after 1 week will up to 50mg)
Week 1-8 Tren A 100mg EOD
Week 1-12 Test Cyp 250 twice weekly
I will check blood again after week 5 if everything goes well sooner if I get sides. Does this look about right? I will, of course, eat plenty of fish/chicken rice throughout the day and a gallon of water daily. Let me know if there is anything I am doing wrong or what I should look out for.
Thanks in advance
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That's basically my favorite stack just add deca and eq...lol
I like to run 45mg(3x15mg) dbol as a preworkout, 50mg tren ace ed (use 29g slingshot pin) and 250 test sust 3x week. That's a pretty sweet spot for me. If I start to get heartburn then I drop to eod on tren and it goes away...
Now for a powerlifting meet I go all out at 500mg sust 3x week, 30mg dbol for 4 weeks then 4 off and then 30mg halo preworkout last 4 weeks and jump tren to 100mg ed...
That's me and I dont recommend it as i feel like crap but I am strong as a mofo for a 43 yrs old. Bloods go to crap as well so good thing I usually run this 2x a year for the nationals and state finals.
DivineHdbol is usually ran for 4 weeks 6 max but if u are advanced.i would stick with 4 weeks and start at 20mgs first 5 days and then up to 40 with 50 max.u are adding too much too fast u will bloat quickly.
nitetricks73I agree 100% , no need for more than 4 weeks of DBOL. One can always close a cycle out with a different oral.
I've never ran d-bol but I've included its baby brother t-bol a number of times in my cycles. Never had any sides and always had decent strength gains even if it has been called an amateurs oral haha
RustyhookerIts not a baby brother....at all.....
What would you say it was then? A cousin? Haha
Twin. Turinabol is a derivative of Dianabol.
Alphamale500Yep. Actually, wouldn't that make it a son? And you're that "bloke" Greg they speak of right? Lol,jk!!
it would make it Will Smith in that movie where Will Smith has been sent to kill Will Smith.
Fair play
I would use or have on hand an AI or SERM in case you get some estrogen sides.
I haven't started my cycle and the consensus sounds like I need to get my body fat under control first. I will do that and in the meantime, I will get me hands-on var, and look into primo. Thanks for all the suggestions the weight should be a no brainer I am probably 25 lbs overweight, should be able to lose it pretty quick. I'll get back at you guys thanks for the help.
Good to hear. Good luck!
I personally would use 6 weeks 60mg var instead dbol and tren a 50mg ED
nitetricks7360mg is a lot , no? For real Var.
Let me preface this by saying I'm speaking from personal experience. Not trying to be a dick, just telling the truth.
Cycle is garbage dude. Tren ace is pinned daily. Period. For most people your test/tren ratio will cause serious side effects. You list no ancillary meds to counteract the side effects you will encounter if you decide to run this train wreck.
You also need to lower your body fat before thinking about cycling. If your bf is similar to your avatar you are over 20%.
Edit: I was actually sticking up for you but just read your “goal” below, and it seems you’re using tren as a diet pill.
I don’t fuck with tren. And that’s because like you I’m a more casual user. No reason to if diet and training are in check for your “goals”
I hear everyone and know I am taking an easy way out. I was always under the impression that you bulk first then cut. I planned a long cardio strict diet to lean out after I put on the muscle with tren. Are you guys telling me I should get leaned out first then take a cycle? I'm hearing my cycle is wonky but I got the cycle after reading long and hard in these blogs from other "Gurus". Please keep the replies coming I am listening and taking this into consideration so, please no snark ass remarks.
bulking doesn't mean put on 20-30lbs of fat .. if you can't manipulate your dietary intake to get rid of fat and need a pill, injection or some other sort of quick easy fix you will NEVER keep the weight off. Tren isn't something to be used lightly .. in fact none of this is to be used lightly. Please get with someone on how to get your diet under control first and foremost otherwise the money you are using on gear would better serve you as toilet paper
Hear hear!
I don’t use tren so I can’t comment on your cycle layout. Other than it looks pretty standard (although I’d go ED pins for a short esters and if you’re pinning Ed anyway, I’d do eod for the cyp in the same barrel. But I’m also OCD. And because I’m OCD I’d probably use the longer esters together. But I’m not giving any advice on tren cuz I have no business giving it.
Not sure why you got shit for the durations or dosage, especially if you did it before with success and no sides. If your goals is to bulk than I don’t see anything wrong with your layout other than I’d use a safer compound than tren, but I’m biased because I don’t use it. If you do I’d get some caber to have on hand too and include prolactin in your blood panel that you said you were gonna get.
As far as what your goals should be, only you can make those decisions but I can guarantee you you’ll have a better/more successful bulk when coming right off a cut. So you’d have better results by cutting down to 12-14%, going in maintenance mode for a couple weeks and then bulking.
It’s also safer to cycle with lower bf. (Both for e2 sides and organ health, cholesterol, BP, etc) That said I’ve seen guys on here do harsher cycles with higher bf than you. Doesn’t make it right, but at the end of the day you’re your own man. Just know the risks.
If I was you And your goal was purely a gym rat, look better and get a little bigger, id cut down a little then bulk, then cut back down. It’s a long road game.
That’s my 2cents anyhow.
Mis matched cycle.
Duration and doses are trash.
Dont like the way you wrote" ill eat fish and chicken and drink water? Sounds like winging a diet like your going to try winging your " cycle".
PcushionThat’s too much tren for my taste.
I would scrap the Dbol for something less bloating! After all the Tren is to give you a grainy look and the Dbol will bloat you; so it's a coffee/beer scenarios IMO. Lots of orals less bloating plenty of kick!
Both put together is one of the best for adding size. Makes you stronger than a mofo. That low dose isn’t going to give you much bloat.
I'd run good anavar over dbol with tren any day.. dbol and tren would give me horrible sides
100 percent agree.
Don’t get me wrong I love Var.... The only way I can run dbol is if I take a mg of Adex every other day. Strength is off the charts plus I put down about 4 or 5lbs of food a day when bulking. If not more. By the way I rarely run dbol. I usually run anavar and winstrol together and sometimes Adrol by itself. It was time for a change. I’m pretty adaptive when it comes to sides I know what to expect and what to do Incase something happens or if I need to tweak a dosage.
I love dbol too but same as you my ai is like double my body converts so easily.. but dbol and npp is my fav bulker.. but with tren it lowers my convertion so would be like estro Russian roulette for me and my blood pressure would be nuts.. but low dose like you're saying I wouldn't have issue with.. cheers
I’m doing something similar with EQ in there too. If you don’t have a lot of Adex on hand I wouldn’t even bother. I’m probably slot more experienced than you too. Id say do something a little easier until you understand what certain hormones do. High estrogen and prolactin will make you a emotional roller coaster. Almost a crazy person.
RustyhookerI see high estro battle and possibly prolactin as well. Burning off fat is a chore but should be simple.
Whats your priors?
I have adex on hand if needed. Wondering if I should just leave the Dbol out. Why ruin what was perfect to me other than I read it was an amazing kickstart. Priors are waiting but they never were out of place. Maybe I will start at 25 and stay there and just drop it if anything shows its head. My run with tren/test was perfect not one side ever.
RustyhookerPrior cycles?
Adex isnt da coverage
Not liking tge test tren ratio either
Prior clcles were same minus the d-bol
500mg test cyp a week 12 weeks
100mg Tren Ace EOD 8 weeks
RustyhookerOuch.....
Gains were great. You think the test should be cut in half?
RustyhookerI think you should fix your diet and xardio to 12%
Hahahaha, get 12% first!
I need another opinion someone else please.
12.5% hows that ?
I thought about that but I really don’t like the vascular or cut look. I’m not bodybuilding for show. I figure this stack will help me burn some fat while cutting. I think I’ll cut out the Dbol though. Do you like the tren to test mix?
Tren is really fucking harsh to be running as a casual cutter. If you don’t like the vascular, cut look that’s fine just run less damaging cycles. You’ll last longer and probably be happier. Just my 2 cents.
Edit: look into primo