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Not to sure on dosages having never used masteron before. Currently 270 @14-15% will be dropping to 255-260@12% before start of cycle. Have run test, test/eq, along with various orals and prohormones in the past although wasn't the smartest starting at 17-18 I always ran a full pct even with prohormones. Cycle plan is
Weeks 1-12 450mg test e 300 e mast
Weeks 1-5 100mg anavar
Weeks 9-14 100mg anavar
Tudca dosed accordingly weeks 6-8
Pct
Weeks 1-5 50mg clomid 20mg nolvadex
Weeks 6-10 pes erase 50mg and daa 3G
Goal is to maintain weight of 250-260 and drop to or below 10% staying hard and getting vascular
Any advice would be greatly appreciated
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Sounds like too much var for way too long. IMO !!!
I would save the var for the tail end like rusty mentioned. 100mg of var is ALOT. With some good var I don't think you should have Togo above 50mg. 40-50mg has been the ticket for me. I would start around there and adjust upwards if you really feel the need after a few weeks. I would rather run a lower dose for a longer period of time.
Test dose and mast dose seem fine. All your trying to do is preserve lbm while cutting and those doses should work just fine I think. Mast should harden you up good so you should notice it when BF gets low enough. That mast can be a tricky one sometimes. It always seem to crash my estrogen which is fine cause I only use it when prepping so be real careful if you are also using an ai along with it so you don't crash your estrogen.
Obviously diet will dictate the outcome here,so ask questions if you unsure about diet.
RustyhookerPost a picture. Thats a massive build
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RustyhookerSubmit...picture...self shot.
Whats your end goal too? Clean mass added?
Clean mass added have always gone for strength and size vs aesthetics as eating and lifting heavy has always been fun and easy and dieting and cardio the challenge. Trying to add a little bit of mass while getting harder and leaner then I have ever been which the last time I was 10% I was 18@200lb
RustyhookerMost of your plan then heavily relies on your diet. Gear for the simple muscle retention. Viking, makwa and catalyst are the folks that I'd brain pick. Typically, they'll pop in so might throw that info up top.
Cycle, I wouldn't run var in the front. Its expensive and will primarily be running solo. 8-14 though on tail end I do like. It kills my appetite and hold muscle well for clean eating. Strength boost is fun but that is dependent on carbs too.
Look at short esters if you like a faster kick and the last 2 weeks before pct is good too unless you're tired of pinning.
If you run your macros past the food folks, id look at 600 test with 300 mast. Week 5 bloods will help you on any estro adjustments. Id hate to kill the estro and have squeaky joints. Water can be controlled with foods and vitamin c. 500 am...500 pm.
Saw palmetto with the dht load. Adex on hand as/if needed.
Pct...go with the full nolva clomid stack. Going weak could lose your gains.
In general section is catalyst food forum, its open q n a layout. Lotta info there. In general is also much info on a viking forum.
Pretty much sums it up in a nutshell.
RustyhookerHe's following your diet so he'll be on point. Gear is just gear.
Already have Var, exemestane, and on cycle support. plan is to get baseline bloods 1 week prior to starting bloods again wk 5 or 6 and will be running exemestane from the start at 12.5mg daily as I am prone to bloat and estrogen sensitive diet has been the same since Jan 4 and I will keep it as such pretty much what makwa has posted which I based off Dave palumbo Keto diet and it has worked pretty well down 35 pounds in about 7 weeks once I get to 255-260 and start cycle I will go back to 200-300 calories under maintnence with 40/40/20 macros. Not the most keen on pinning Ed or eod pinning e5d would be preferred so if extending cycle to 16 weeks or so would benefit me greater I am not against it.
RustyhookerSounds like a solid plan. Watch for low estro signs. Good luck bro