posted Fri, 11/02/2012 - 21:44
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Cycle Advice...
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I am getting Deca - Test E - D-Bol and Arimidex. I have been reading through the cycle logs but dont see anything perfect. Can someone please give me a good cycle log. Im 5ft 10in 202 pounds. 15% body fat. I would like to bulk up. i have done cycles before but with no correct knowledge. Been working out for 2 years straight and I'm ready to get huge. I thank everyone for their advice and i am going to create a cycle log with a consensus and with a little pushing the limits on my part.
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mr127superdeeoh man someone else who has done zero research and wants to run deca
Sounds like you have never done a base line cycle before. I would do a full test e cycle for 12 weeks 600 every week (with an AI). I would take blood labs before the cycle, mid and just before PCT. This will tell you how your body is reacting to just Test which should be the base for all your cycles. It will also give you an idea of how you might react to Deca. You may only need 200-300 a week of deca and not so much. It would also be a good time to get your diet in check. It doesn't sound like you have enough experience with just test to have let it do its job as it does not start to kick in until week 4-5. Dbol, Test E and Deca is a lethal combination and will definitely pack on some mass but at your/our age metabolism is a huge factor. We do not burn as much as we used to and conversion to nitrogen retention isn't as high. That being said it is very easy to put on hidden layers of subcutaneous fat masked by water retention if you are not careful and do not know what to look for. IMO it is never a good idea for someone over the age of 36 to just get swollen and huge without regard to heart, liver and blood pressure anyone really, but at this age your body goes through a second puberty of sorts lol! metabolism slows down and fat is easier to pack on then muscle! It is def smarter to pack on lean muscle over longer periods of time. This ensures long term gains and less risk of hypertension and a healthier heart. If your cardio isn't involved it needs to be. Cardio is key to helping your heart stay healthy especially on dbol. Dbol and deca are hard on the heart in long term usage and dbol will give you such massive pumps you will not be able to walk a mile without your calves burning off so you never get your heart rate up enough to do any good. I would save this regiment for 8-10% body fat and work up from there keeping a strong hold on diet and cardio for optimal gains with this cycle. You won't be wasting your time, money or health and you won't be spending a year trying to get your bf down to 15% again! Sorry for the rant brother...good luck!
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I like your advice, but.... I want to push my limits on this and sticking to a strict diet so i don't get the fat and side effects your talking about.
Fast Cdaddy , Zewi , GS . Thems the bro's that will show you the way!
Im building a cycle. so dont make fun of it. i need input
Solid except for my stomach... lol Little layer of fat on the abs. Cant get rid of it. But not my priority right now
Ive done 4 weeks of Test E then took off 3 weeks Then i did 6 weeks of Anodrol and sust then took off a few weeks then i tried IGF-1 for a few weeks Ive been off for 4 weeks As you can see... dont know what im doing lol But i have some results im solid and 20% stronger
I just saw this...
Big Mass Cycle
Week 1-14 Test E 500mg/wk
Week 1-5 Dbol 50mg/day
**Week 1-13 **Deca Durabolin 400mg/wk
PCT starts two weeks after last test injection (3 weeks after last Deca injection - longer ester, takes longer to clear system) I just copy and pasted this. Looks good but without specifics on PCT
By the way, Test E takes 4-5 weeks to kick in lol
So you ran a redicoulesly messed up cycle then did no pct or the proper time on + pct = time off and now you wanna jump on another cycle? If I read that rite then your receptors that take up the gear and make it usable are full and over whelmed and you are on the track for being a self made TRT patient for EVER! Besides that, your copied and pasted cycle doesn't mention AI, caber for the 19nor compound, deca is too much for that dose of test, deca is suppose to be ran 2 weeks shorter that test e, and you need to start with a simple cycle AFTER reasearch. These are hormones not supplements, if you don't know what you are doing then don't fuck yourself up and do some reasearch.
so ive been off for 3 weeks what should i do
Probably run PCT as in Clomid at 100/100/50/50 and nolva at 40/40/20/20 as soon as posible. That is clomid at 100 mgs for the first 2 weeks then at 50 mgs for the other 2. Run nolva along with your clomid at 40 mgs for the first 2 weeks then 20 mgs for the last 2 weeks. After your 4 weeks of pct take a minimum of 18 weeks off. Your cycle was fucked up bad so im looking at it like it was 13 weeks so 14 weeks on + 4 weeks pct = time off is 18 weeks. Remember this --> Time on + PCT = TIME OFF! In this period of time is when you do your research and if your ready to run (as in know absolutely %100 of what your doing) a proper cycle when your time comes around then run a simple test e or c @ 500 mgs split twice a week (250 mgs monday/ 250 mgs thursday)for 12 weeks and have adex on hand in case of gyno (thats you AI). Then run PCT and take the proper time off (Time on + PCT = TIME OFF). When I ran my first cycle, it was test E @ 500 mgs for 12 weeks and I gained almost 30 lbs on cycle I think I kept at least 5 lbs after I lost the excess water.
What if I was using fake gear. Because I don't feel like anything is wrong with me right now. Nipple are fine. Sex life is fine. Balls are fine. I feel I mights have gotten scammed. Cause I didn't only gained 5 pounds on the Android.
Better be safe than sorry dude. Run the pct asap. Then be clean for about three months to get all your hormone levels back to normal before running anything. This is necessary, not a mere suggestion. Stick around on this site and learn how to eat, train and rest properly and prepare for your first cycle.
I say first cycle because, as you already know, you haven't done it right. After your body and brain are cleared out, run a first test e only cycle.
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Typing on this phone is all messed up. I'm sure you know what I mean.
thats what im here for
Cycle history?
fast48 looks like the guy with the answers