posted Mon, 01/04/2016 - 18:50
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What's a good 8 week cutting cycle I'm 6'2 235 lbs about 23% body fat the show I want to do is 24 weeks away any suggestions..
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Thanks for the knowledge guys y'all really opened my eyes I was going at it the wrong way I'll take the advice lol I'll concentrate on my diet more to get my body fat down first of all but I'd love some help if any of you do online coaching fill me in in the prices and details I'm the type of person who doesn't like to do things half ass or waste time or money if I go I want to win..
Don't go offering to pay for any online coaching on here or anywhere, your more than likely to be taken for a ride.
You don't need to pay, the information is already here in the archive's free and ready to go use to your benefit.
Build relationships with people here and make friends, you will get a lot of help if you are open to new ideas and show some gratitude and appreciation.
Use the magnifying glass symbol above to search for answers and read through the forums, especially diet and exercise, these are mainly passed by the impatient but if you're as keen as you say gain knowledge and start thinking right.
RustyhookerYou remember that prick that stole folks funds? When he got caught his real pix posted for a minute. Lol
+2 for catching that
I remember, it was in the back of my mind when I wrote this above. Some will get taken advantage of but it's all here free to anyone.
You want to cut 15%+ in 24 weeks? Your going to lose a good amount of lean tissue cutting down that fast not to mention the shock your body is going to get and it will fight back. Is this your first show? How big of a show is it? You ever posed before and had a posing coach? Ever dieted for a show? There's a lot more to a show then drugs , drugs are a extremely small part of competing. I've personally watched guys run huge amounts of pharma stack and look like straight dog shit onstage. You need to be more concerned about your training , dieting , posing , tanning etc etc fuck the drugs lol that's the least of the problem. I'd say do some research and learn everything you can about competing and I mean everything. Then pick a show. Get your body fat down a little so you don't have to cut soo much , so your body won't be under soo much stress. Stress=cortisol levels high=water retention and a smooth look. There's a lot to it brother. I think you should slow down a bit so you don't get head over heels in this.
I don't know about you but when I compete and sink all that money, time and dedication into it I do it to win. With the way your going the odds are stacked against you. You need to do a lot of research and learning brother if you want to make a serious impact when you hit the stage.
Makwa , viking , catylist, myself and a few others could drop soo much info and knowledge on you about competing and what's involved and it would make your head spin.
I know its taking the thread off topic..... but i did my last comp back end of last year, when did the other names last compete?...... not for any other reason but my own curiosity
Wife did a small one last year. Both her and I will be doing a few this year. An catylist has been beat up with injuries. An make competed last year as well. There are a few others on here too can't remember off the top of my head.
yeah...... ive got the bug too, i said i had quit but i still have a burning in my gut to go again, once the seed is planted in my fkn head its hard to shift... i have a Blast planned so i might just make it a cutter and see how i feel in a couple of months.
TronDO IT...and do a before and after pic..lot's of motivation. .for one when you know you will be competing..and for two..the whole community will see your progress..everybody loves before and after pics man.
You know you'll be back on stage. It's in your blood.
Hmmm.. im doing suzies head in the past week or so by keep talking about it, shes got to the stage of telling me to just shut the fuck up and just go do it, im not in bad nick at the moment believe it or not and wouldnt take much to get sharp.............. i dunno bro still got stuff to think about.
I knew you wouldn't last long lmfao
you know me too well............. im in head fuck at the moment bro, i need to get blinkered but i have certain things already planned for this year, not sure if i can tweak things yet so it all fits in,.
ahhh this makes me happy. just once last time right then never again lol?? If youre feeling good i say go for it. ive seen very few pics of you in contest shape id love to see some more.
End of May last year. Starting prep for another next week.
Thanks for that bro........ just curious to know who of us is still active on the circuits
Good luck with the Qualifiers.... i was always more nervous in qualifiers than any of the bigger shows afterwards lol.
I qualified for Nationals last year but I didn't go. Seriously thinking about going this year, assuming I will qualify, so I am mentally preparing myself for it. I was just to drained to do back to back shows last year.
yeah its hard bro, a top three placing in the regional, s gets an invite to the Nationals and then top 3s in those take you on to the Worlds, Universe and what not............ is it similar for you guys?
Open shows are exactly that....... meaning no height classes (or weight) its a every man for himself, apart from being junior, novice, 1st timer, over 21s over 23s 40s masters 50s masters, but the 50s is up in the air at the moment because certain organisations think we are good enough to battle in the 40s category.... so if i do choose to up this year i could be battling against guys who have just turned 40 ..... if thats not gonna put fire in my gut i dont know what will lol
I cant moan though....... because Suze keeps pointing out she had to compete against 20 somethings when she was 50..... and beating them cleanly!.... so you can imagine what the conversation is like in our house lol
Pretty much the same process. For masters place in the top 2 at a national qualifer to qualify for nationals. Win an overall there and keep moving on. I qualified for masters with my overall title and missed the open overall title by 1 damn point! It was nice to win the open middleweight though showing those youngsters how it is done.
The NPC now has this new division called Classic Physique, which seems to me like a big physique competitor or a small bodybuilder. Not sure how it going to pan out.
Similar things happening here, i think they are trying to either get away from the "mass monster" or make getting up on stage easier for the masses to increase numbers that do want to compete and also build up the organisations bank accounts lol
Classic Bodybuilder is the new class here........ back to aesthetics instead of bloated slin gut monsters
I think you are on to something with bloated slin gut monsters. I had three of the judges after the show come to me at various times and said that I should have won the open overall. All three of them had comments on how they didn't like that slin gut the guy had that took the open. He was 60lbs heavier than me but I still think my conditioning was way better.
yep.. ive suffered the same bro, beaten by a guy that looked like i did 4wks previous before hardening and getting tight as a drum skin!...... its a poor day when condition comes second and its blatantly obvious whe strangers walk up and tell you that you have been robbed!.......... politics bro, only the judges can put pressure on organisations to change... they dont really listen to the competitor... well! not here anyway.
We are desperate for change... i mean look at last Olympia, cover the faces and everyone looks the same!!....... 80s 90s we had individuals with different looks and to me that was Body-building glory years.
Any previous cycles? Have you dieted down before? I'm assuming you'll be competing in physique, you will be around 190 lbs stage weight and at over 6' tall there might not be much size left to you.
I've ran tren e with test e followed by test prop eq and Clen
Yes it's physique what a good route for me to take
first we need an accurate BF%. What I would really recommend before anybody does is a show is to actually attend a show and observe what is going on. I mean the entire show not just the night time portion. You need to attend prejudging and observe everything that takes place there. That is where the winners and losers are sorted out there. I would also suggest that if you are going to be competing that you never let your BF climb above 15%. Like TonyT mentioned it is way to stressful on the body to be dumping a load of fat before a show.
RustyhookerWhats your big goal? At your height a show given stats says bikini comp? 23% down to 6% bodybuilding would have the short guys tearing you up.
I'm actually 18 at the moment I don't know where 23 came from I can pm u a recent pic I'm going at this blind I have no coach but I'd like to get a pro card in men's physique but I'm not opposed to bodybuilding I put on muscle very easily with the right sups
Rustyhooker" 6'2 235 lbs about 23% body fat"
Your quote up top. Your post. Lol. Makwa will dial you in, he competes and kicks ass.