posted Tue, 08/22/2017 - 09:35
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I hear people talk about cruising. How many mg are you supposed to run and what length of time? Does how long you been on cycle come into play with that?
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If you're going to do a few cycles anyway why not?
I've never seen anything about permanent shutdown beyond forum talk.
I have seen/heard that PCT drugs and PCT in general can be more harmful, so it's something to consider.
On your cruise I believe you would run hcg or Clomid to get the testes responding/working for a bit and restore function.
Then after a few just do a PCT.
However in the end there's so little known about each method TBH
And at 25 y.o., (if that is your real age), you know even less.
Honestly, your whole comment should be deleted.
I'm 31
Try following up your accusation with actual info. It seems go to here for members to simply say/attack a member here and yet post no relevant info.
Very disappointing, if you can't actually discuss a point you have no business in a discussion.
Ok,..........really ??
Can't make up your mind on what lie to tell ??
For the record, you joined EROIDS >Since: Aug 17th, 2017
Aged 6 years in 7 days,........... 3 more weeks at that rate and you will be on TRT and a member of the cranky old bastard culb.
Lol yes I'm also 75lbs.
You got me.
Regardless wether I'm 12 or 99 my discussion points are the same, and you'd are still rooted in nothing but attacks.
I wrongly assumed the 75 was kg's. (75 kg' s = 165 lbs).
But have it your way,......... your profile is all lies.
I would fix that soon.......... before you are told to leave.
Sure. No where else has a profile mattered or been looked at on any forum I've been on.
In the meantime grow up a t like a man and learn how to debate with grown ups, with actual information and counter points.
So....why is it dumb?
I think rollercoasteung your hormones with PCT on/off etc may be worse and it's better to combine a few cycles clearly. I also think permanent shutdown is likely not dependent in choice of b/c or cycle in the short term.
Rustyhooker-2 . Wisen up dude. We dont promote dumb ideas
You wisen up and post actual information relevant to an argument.
You cannot call something dumb and then not support your point, it's poor arguing and does nothing for anyone reading.
Is this a discussion forum or a circle jerk?
RustyhookerDont double talk your lunacy. Every time i see you post up garbage advice, i will dock you points.
On this board we do not blindly push folks to trt blast and cruise. 85% of the folks here do not make a living by being on gear or having a life sport to justify it blindly.
You will find yourself troll tagged quickly.
aged 6 years in a week. Scoff...kick rocks junior
When did I tell him to try?
In fact I posted I am not, but a discussion on b/c denotes discussing it, and I brought up the pints valid to looking in to when considering it.
It is in fact you who ate pushing a side.
I simply laid out the points to look into when considering the choice.
Agsin, no actual relevant information posted except your attacks.
Rustyhooker"If you're going to do a few cycles anyway why not...I've never seen anything about permanent shutdown beyond forum talk."
Your quote above. And was that an actual reply? Spellcheck or not english as first language?
Dont suggest trt to a dude on here.
You've never seen anything about permanent shut down,beyond forum talk?Then you have never talked to a endocrinologist or a fertility doctor.Not really good advice.
I didnt give advice to cruise.
I gave things to think about/look into.
Same as I'm looking into.
Permanent shutdown may happen but are there more instances if it from a few b/c? Over soneonevsoing doing cycles? Would it have mattered?
I only think that's been compared at all.
That's why it's also recommended by some to run Clomid/hcg on cruise/cycle.
I'd also like to add for older guys considering TRT (I will one day myself) that's pretty much b/c.
For younger guys (me included) I'd say I'm comfortable doing a few b/c then PCT.
That's my choice knowing what I know/see currently
How isn't "If you're going to do it anyway, why not" suggesting he should?! That's a cosign where I'm from.
If you think it's fine to do, and you wanna play Russian roulette with your balls, that's on you. Don't tell others it's ok cuz you've seen no evidence. You're obviously not looking for it either, then.
I understand that you weren't giving advice,that's why I didn't neg you.You did however say something really dumb.I'm also not sure,exactly what you were trying to say in you response,but permanent shutdown happens frequently!Especially for guys who chose to blast and cruise!Clomid on cycle IMO is also a bad idea.That being said I checked your profile,and your pics look great.Good work.
That's half of how this should work so thank you, but as for calling something dumb, back up with WHY it's dumb.
Clomid on cycle would serve the same purpose as hcg, stimulating the testes, and yes hcg is prob better.
Clomid as other AIs can also affect people negatively yes as they are selective in brain tissue etc sometimes. Therefore hcg wins out for most.
Other options of cruising include supplemental dhea/pregnelone to replace the nueristreoid building blocks also affected by shutdown on cycle.
Permanent shutdown happens yes.
What I said is not much info exists in regards to would that shutdown have happened regardless of choice to cycle or b/c.
I answered a few points I was called out on as "dumb", and hopefully forum members have actual intelligent responses to build on
Ok , your assertion that there is not a lot of info on permenant shut down is silly.It only means you haven't tried to find the info.Really though you don't even have to do a lot of research, just ask people who are on TRT why that's necessary.For me personally,I did steroids in collage to play football.Long cycle, high doses and I've never been the same.That's called permenant shut down.You think the warnings that endocrinologist give young guys are only scare tactics.It's called truth.Don't get me wrong ,I'm not judging you.Just the statement you made about studies and research was bullshit.
As for clomid on cycle, you are the only person I've head suggest that.I'm not saying it won't help, but never had my endo suggest clomid except for pct.Clomid is also not an AI,it's a SERM.It works by binding to estro receptor where as an AI binds to aromitase to make it inactive.To me it sounds like a good way to earn a nice set of titties.
For cruising i was always a corvette man, v8 mg.
I recently jumped ship and bought a nissan, its a v6 turbo.
I prefer cruising in the nissan so its personal preference
Twiglett.
I would never think about that. I prefer to cycle safely, do a complete PCT and then take a significant time off.
Listen to the guys below. It may sound like a good idea now but time goes by quick and before you know it you'll be 35 then 40 and having to jab yourself every week for the rest of your life? Maybe able to do it for awhile but it will get old, so then what? You stop? What if you've fried yourself so now you walk around with a limp dick? Im about to turn 42 and I have get at wifey twice a day. Trust me, if your girl wants to fuck twice a day and you cant perform. Well you figure it out
I'm 29! I've been cruising and blasting since I was 24... don't do it and I speak out of experience. Pinning every fucking week sucks and if you don't well no one is going to want to be around you because of your hormone influx. There are many other problems as well. Make sure you PCT and I speak from experience. It sucks ass and I wish I made a better decisions.
Rustyhooker28.... not smart....
Ill try to help you a bit,cruising means never coming off.So really your cycle wouldn't be long it would be forever.It's never a good idea unless you have no choice.I can't really answer the other questions without your cycle history,but the advice I can give is don't cruise!
SMFH
28 and planning on cruising? Good luck with that.
Take it that was a really stupid question?
Not a stupid question. Just a stupid thing to do in my opinion. Probably fine for the short term, but lots of potential problems in the long run. No reason you can't cycle and accomplish your goals.
You already know what people are gonna say