-1 Critique my first cycle
I'm sure you guys get this type of thread all too often, so I'll post the relevant info and keep it short:
Age: 28
Training time: 7 years, 3 of which I consider training well
5'9 180lbs 11% BF tested with 5 site caliper measure
Diet will be 1.0g - 1.5g protein per lb bodyweight, .35g - .40g fat per lb, and the remaining cals to be carbs in the neighborhood of 3,000 (may adjust if needed) Through trial and error I've found my maintenance to be about 2500.
Plan is to run RPN Havoc at 30/30/30/40/40/40 - week 6 contingent on sides encountered
Nolva @ 20/20/10/10
I have a few bottles of Liv.52 from my order, was planning on running before the cycle and all the way through, but don't know if it would really make a difference.
I realize most of you will shit on oral onlys, but this is the route I've chosen. Flame away, but I would also appreciate constructive criticism.
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You need to bump that up to 2 grams/lb
No good , your either going to have to jump in and take the plunge , or find a half ass site for ph, this is the real deal here , afraid to pin , e just may not be for you . And thats honest friend . Test is where its at.
Nah I get it, however oral steroids are still steroids, believe it or not.
Probably not the right forum for feedback on PH cycles, no real fans of it here.
It's all good viking. I wouldn't argue; test is superior.
jellotrip, I have researched a 12 week test-e cycle. However I don't see myself ever being able to pin. Honestly my goal is to be around 190lbs at around 8-10% bodyfat, which I think is attainable in a years time. I understand orals being hepatotoxic and a lot of people claim the gains are transient in nature, however I find that quite hard to believe that you couldn't gain a solid 5-7lbs lean body mass in a 5-6 week period with proper nutrition and PCT.
I would say either go all in and pin the real stuff or just don't do anything. You can't have your cake and eat it too. Hell I was nervous as hell the first time I pinned. Took me like an hour to actually get up the nerve. I kept rechecking everything afraid I was going to screw up. But after the first one the second was a lot easier. Now its like brushing my teeth just something I regularly do.
Here is a good story on a first pin, you aren't alone in being apprehensive of pinning.
https://www.eroids.com/forum/general/off-topic/my-first-shot-funny-sad-a...
Oh yea. And there's is nothing wrong with staying natty if you don't want to take the leap into real AAS. As far as Prohormones I wish they would disappear from the face of the earth.
I do appreciate the help, however epi is not a PH.
AnonYeah man I dunno what to tell you if you aren't willing to pin. Guys here got it right, you probably wont get much help with prohormone cycles but Im sure there are other forums that are more accommodating.
I've read numerous horror stories on pro hormones and people not recovering for various reasons. Which is why I've maintained that if you never want to pin avoid anything that manipulates your natural hormones.
People also take them without any research, I've seen threads of people on epi for 6 months.
Planning on getting bloodwork before and after, so we'll see.
Post up the bloodwork when you get it
Will do. Plan is to start around May when I have everything taken care of.
thetdog623837if you aint willing to pin, then maybe steroids arent for you
Yes, I am aware that injectables are not for me. Thank you.
You wont get much in the way of positive response to pro-hormone posts here at eroids bro....... eroiders like to build and hold hard gained muscle.
I have seen all the hype with that stuff all over the web... but unfortunately it is what it is!..... just another sales promoting fad.
Sorry to disillusion you but test is KING.............. nuff said
Anonhttps://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/first-time-cycle...
Not gonna flame you, just not a fan of oral only/prohormones. Why not research a basic test cycle?