posted Wed, 04/25/2012 - 15:46
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critique my advanced bulk cycle
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Weeks 1-4 test prop @ 150mg/eod
Weeks 1-10 test e @ 500-750 mg/ wk
Weeks 1-10 tren e @ 200-400 mg/wk
Weeks 10-12 test prop @ 100 mg/eod
Weeks 1-12 hcg @ 500 iu/wk
Weeks 13-17 clomid&nolva 100/40 tapering to 50/20
Arimidex on hand some like aromosin, ive never tried it tho.
STATS cuz i know thats the first thing yall will ask for you animals!
29 years old
6 foot 3
240.
8% bf
This is my 9th cycle been as high as 750mg test wk..first go with tren tho!
Open to all suggestions (cough cough) Tread, Goth etc (cou
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tread-mHL13 pretty much nailed my thoughts but if you don't mind prop then I would personally run the ace and prop the whole trip and drop the long ester all together. Total control tweaking either compound to your liking, would even consider ed on this one but eod will work as well. Good run, I'm on it now with a few Tread tweaks! Lol
biggerthanyouAlright cool thanks for the tips everybody...tread in particular, i know ur hard at work helpin ppl here...so if i go the prop/ace route then i should probably keep cycle length in the 8-10 week range correct?
tread-m10 would be a good run. With you never having ran tren I would start my ace at 40 eod and prop at 150 eod and slowly run up if desired. Even at 50 you will have nice effect dialed in with the kitchen especially. Could go higher to tolerance for sure but there is no reason to have constant night sweats, extreme rage and tweaked out of control, this can be a very effective cycle at moderate to higher tolerable numbers. You may be someone who can handle 100 eod easily but if you work your way to it and don't like what you feel then the control in the short ester allows you to drop right back down a bit with quick response time rather than riding the misery train on tren E. Eat big big big brother and lift the weights with dust on them with this one and you come out the other side nice. I love the vascularity on this run!
HardLuck13I like the cycle you have lined up. I've run this very cycle a few times myself. I would change the tren from e to ace but other than that it looks solid. Be careful with the test dose I notice more sides while running a bigger test dose. I have found that a dose of 300mg works wonders for me. It will allow the tren to have the lions share of your receptors instead of battling the test for them. Adex or Aromasin is perfect for keeping estrogen in check which will in turn decrease the likelihood of having prolactin sides. Remember that the higher your estrogen the higher your chances of getting prolactin sides. I would order up some caber just to have on hand if you get any signs of gyno and sexual dysfunction. Overall a decent cyle Biggie!
biggerthanyouWeeks 1-8 test prop @ 100 mg/eod
Weeks 1-8 tren ace @ 75mg/eod
Look better? I might up the tren slightly if i handle the sides pretty well, maybe to 100 mg/eod
I might also change this to everyday pinning if pip is not too bad
SwonkyShouldnt you run the Tren A higher than the test prop?
you can run it either way its a matter of preference. did you realize this thread is over a year old?
You need to run prami or caber with tren to help with prolactin build up.. could save you from tits and worse mood swings.. I know you don't want to pin every day... BUUUUT yeah use tren A not E.. The stuff takes a lot of tweaking to get your personal dosage right and you do NOT want the sides tren has to offer for several weeks because you chose E instead of A... What you COULD do if you really dislike pinning a lot which im not a fan of it either.. Start with tren A and you should be able to tweak the dosage to your liking within a few weeks then start dosing that with tren E (MUST be same brand as your tren ACE or a diff brand may be weaker or stronger screwing up the whole point of this).. then when the tren E kicks in noooo more need to every day shots.. But hey if your on tren you prlly eat babies and smash puppies with your bare hands.. YOU CAN TAKE THE DAILY SHOT.. side note some prefer to run t3 with tren because its suppresses the natty production of t3 in your body.. my two cents
HardLuck13Spot on advice over here. It's always better to run tren ace for a first go round. The ability to adjust the dose and even drop the compound on the fly is priceless. I've run tren on every cycle for the last 2 years. I've played with the dosage each time and even pulled the plug on tren on one of the cycles. I couldn't have done that with Tren E. I would have been stuck in misery for 2 wks and I probably would have ended up killing someone by then.
Solid advice OmNom!
Thx personally im really looking forward to my next cycle with higher tren lower/trt test cycle... The idea of less sides but more of what you want from tren sounds interesting - DEF gonna do ACE as much as i HATE pinning frequently. That's something else to consider if you decide tweaking your first cycle of tren.
HardLuck13I was just writing that as u wrote this. Let the tren do all the work, with the anabolic/androgenic ratio it has it would be foolish not to. After a while pinning will be one of your favorite hobbies. I still get happy when I do the perfect injection! Never gets old.
It actually made me wonder about TrT-test with high dosed Deca which could be great for guys trying to bulk and get less sides and the stick shift still working.. just posted a thread on it.. But I can't find many threads of ppl who did it that. When i do it's someone just doing straight deca... IM NOT TRYING THAT..
You can run HGC during pct if you want, week 13 1000IU for 10 days..
For PCT Aromasin is preferred while using Tren. Nolva up regulates progesterone receptors
Good luck
if this is your firat time with tren why not go with ace so if the sides are bad you can adjust quickly