posted Thu, 11/03/2011 - 12:12
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converting tren E and test E into a cycle
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Just received my gear from Ab today and trying to figure out how much i need to be using per week....Recevied Test E 200mg/ml and Tren E 200mg/ml.......
ive always done orals and my last test was in small individual vial where you break the top off and just do the whole thing...Im trying to figure out how to break this down...my needles are in ML.....IM thinking there should be a total of 10 ML in this and i want to break it down into a 6 week cycle......just wanted to get some input before I started....Ive done vials like this before but my needles were in CC's....just a little confused if anyone can help thanks....
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A ml is a cc. One ampoule break off top is one cc on syringe. Imo a 6 week cycle isn't worth doing bc that's when the drugs have their greatest effects. Running enanthate I'd do no less than 12 weeks. And noobies I'd advise 500 a week test aND 400 a week tren. I've been doing it for years and I use roughly 1250 to 1500 a week test and 1000 tren but wouldn't recommend to someone who isn't a pro. Also I'd throw in some eq and depending on goals an oral like dbol or winstrol in weeks 1-4
R.E.DDo it! Trial and error
RustyhookerDumbass
Nevermind, found it. Looks like a liquid oral from what I read
Anyone can answer this question. I Googled it but I only got more confused.
Rawpower dbol.... is in alcohol? It's not pill form. So is it a liquid oral still or injectable?
RustyhookerYou dig up a 5 year old post to ask source questions? Did you read the rules?
Roid Noid is correct about the test not counteracting the tren dick. Allow me to share my experience with Tren. I did a 10 week cycle of tren 200 E, and Test E 250, 1 cc each, mixed together and injected weekly. I did my homework, and also took Dostinex, .5mg twice a week. This is a must when doing Tren because Tren increases your prolactin levels in your body, and those increased levels will surely make it almost impossible to have a sex drive let alone achieve a decent erection. I also had plenty of arimadex and tamoxifen, and chlomid on hand. My diet was good, my workout schedule was 5 days a week, 2 days off and just did cardio on those 2 days. The only side effects I had were night sweats, and back acne. Strength gains were thru the roof. The only thing was the gains took about a month before I started feeling them kick in, due to the enanthate ester. All in all I gained 16 lbs and it was lean. I got many compliments, and that's when I fell in love with tren. I kept most of my gains, my pct was spot on, and it's been over 6 months I've been off cycle. With the amount of gear I did I was very happy with my gains. I myself just ordered and received more Tren/Test from AB, and getting prepared for another cycle. I honestly feel I was lucky and just didn't have the terrible sides that come with Tren. Hopefully this time will be good too. Also while I was on that last cycle due to the Dostinex and test, my dick was never limp, lol..... Worked great like a teenager again!! And when your 40 that's like a second bonus!! Keep studying and keep learning, and good luck
sorry quick question...looks like the dostinex is another name for cabergoline? i see the cabergoline in abs supplies..is this correct? thanks alot man!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes sir, you are correct, sorry it took a while to respond to you
Hey thanks alot for taking the time to reply...i doing some research on everything you said here....i appreciate it....havent tapped into the tren yet...still dont know enough but learning...thanks again
tread-mYou just need a whole lot more knowledge on this before you continue. I cant believe you squirmed through this ?ong brother, no offense seriously. Just do yourself a favor and shut it down and go back to learning and figuring out what all of this is doing for you. This is the way we did it in the 80's and kind of had an excuse. With Google and this amazing place you are in right now the only excuses left are the lazy gene. Talking Tren and you dont even know the basics? Thats like being dropped into a war zone to learn how to use a rifle....put in some time, read through this entire site, use google to answer questions you cant figure out and come back when you are ready. We dont mind helping you but our koolaid is not the first lesson you need here.
He's all your tread !!
Hey Banks,...this is another good one to listen too.
Hey you guys are awesome here. I knew my knowledge was minimal at best. Believe me ive been googling and i really just get so many mixed reviews its really hard to make any sense of it and what to believe. I really thought i was gonna get ripped a new A hole here but you guys are really helping me out...the tren will sit in the closet for now. test ive taken and feel comfortable with that. Prob showing my ingornance again but my main concern is the trendick i read about...but i thought the test counter acted that.....im taking the nightmares and moods as exactly as you guys say. normally i wouldve thought it was being exaggerated but age has brought enough wisdom to learn.
Test doesnt always counteract tren-dick, Test does hieghten tren sides!
the only thing that guarantees me not to experience any tren-dick sides is proviron
I googled that and looks like thats a steriod too...i looked at abs products and he has a few things that look similar to this...can you recommend a good source for proviron?
I have 2 Test E and 1 vial of Tren E..ive done the test before but never tren..I did very little research on the tren except for the results sounded great...These side affects dont sound great though. i think i could handle it except for the lack of sex thing...I have seen some post about trin dick. I can imagine what this means and definately dont need that happening. I wonder if I kept the tren levels down if I might be able to handle it and still get the hard lean muscle ive read about. Im 5'8" 190lbs 36yrs old. last cycle was about 2 months ago. ive managed to keep most of my size from my last cycle. My goals are to become lean and muscular not just bulky which the dbol..of my last cycle did. I definately shouldve done more research on the tren but really appreciate everyones opinion. im really not to concerned about the side effects but dont need a deaddick! as far as experince i have used Test several times but i wouldnt call this experience..little thought went into it...im really trying to learn more at this point and gain some knowledge eat right and ive worked out for the better part of my life but just now learning what a real workout is. walking out of the gym dripping in sweat and sore not just in and out and expecting results..thanks again for your opinions this is an awesome sight
The reason they are telling you Tren A for a starter rather than Tren E is because of the side effects.
Tren E has a 10-12 day half life so could take almost 30 days to get rid of the sides.
Tren A has a 3 day half life and could clear in less than 10 days.
All of this is of course based on the amount in your system.
There seem to be 2 schools of thought on Test to Tren ratio, one say more Test than Tren the other more Tren than Test, the latter seems more based on maximum gains for experienced/long time users.
The 2 months since your last cycle may or may not be to soon.
You also need to get some PCT in your hands before you start.
Right now I have triazole which i guess wouldnt be considered pct..triazole is just anti extrogen. I have A bomb from gnc I need to continue doing some research on this...can you recommend a good pct? I honestly didnt realize how much i didnt know until i came to this site. Im really not a total idiot thats why my vials still havent been opened. I got a litle excited ordering because abs is an awesome source and i figured id give it a try as far as ordering goes. who wouldve thought it wouldve been here in 3 days! I do realize i have alot to learn and definately want to keep studying and learning from you guys. these forums have the best info there is from people who actually use it. im not real concerned about the test E i think that can only bring good things..I definately want to learn more about the pct thought because I think coming right off the dbol and test from 2 months ago i was having some problems in the sex area and definately dont want that again. everything seems to be back to normal now but need to educate myself some more...The tren sounds awesome! all except like i said the sex part if it hurts that. im definately going to be doing more research before i have it in me though and be sure im in a good mental state of mind when i decide to start it if i do.
About the PCT question, here you go http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/pct-anti-estrogens
The great new is your willing to learn, that will get a Rep Point from me.
I'm going to leave you with these other guys, cycles aren't my thing, but the guys who have already spoken will keep you in good hands.
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Your best bet may be to go back to AB and get a couple of vials of Tren A 100, that combined with the 2 vials of Test E 250 you have could give you something a 6-8 week cycle pinning Tren A E2D and TestE E4D (the TestE and TrenA pins could be combined).
But you need to get everything in your hands before you start.
Including your PCT
Also we would like more info on your last cycle as to duration and time off since.
Last cycle was around 2 months ago.. it was an 8 week cycle of test and Dbol...I had huge gains.most ive ever had in my life. It was so obvious that everyone was asking me if i was on roids or to lay off the roids. Strenth was through the roof and i felt awesome but was just way to bulky which i beleive was the dbol thats why i reserched a little and discovered tren. it sonded like just what i needed. Ive kept a lot of my size and strenth to this point but I can wear my size large shirts again. when i started the last cycle large was a little loose on me but by the end was skin tight sorry thats the best way i know how to describe the gains so you can picture it. from what your telling me and what im reading my previous cycle all being basically test really dont prepare you for the mental abuse tren is going to put on me...I believe i can handle it but so does everyone im sure....
Cycle time (in weeks) + PCT time (in weeks) = Time off (in weeks) before next cycle.
Well, a lot more info would be helpful.
Age, wt, bf%, how many cycles
Also you were a little lite in info as to what you have on hand.
Also AB's TestE is normally 250 mg/ml,
So , not trying to be nosy, but fill in the blanks about you and what you have on hand ie: how many vials: Test E, Tren (and as others have told you TrenA the first time would be better), PCT, etc
You also might want to look at a thread Goth started last night on Tren, it's in general talk, but here is a link: http://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/nightmares...night-swea...
Damn, I hate being a slow typist.
Damn....Just based on the language of your post..the wording of it..it sounds like you lack a great deal of knowledge and experience. Of course, the wonderful thing about the human brain is the capacity to learn, and it sounds like that might be a good idea..at least for a few days. Knowing that a CC and a ml are the same thing is a great place to start. If you live near a TSC, go grab some 3ml lur lock syringes and 22 guge 1.5" needles...(22 ga. is the smallest they carry).
Also, have a look at the happy, joyous time I'm having with Tren. Enjoy your time in the straightjacket::
http://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/nightmares...night-swea...
Doesnt sound like you have done tren before sure you wanna run "E"? When it kicks in if you get sides your gonna have to ride them out. Its always suggested to start with tren-A. Just a side note so you are aware.
Agreed! Will even put into question whether u have the necessary cycle experience to be running tren. but (of course) everyone just does what they want anyway so i'm with Roid. take a run with "A" so you'll know what ur getting into. Tren is NO JOKE (even for the experienced AAS user)
my .02
Need more info to give you a decent answer
Shooting from the hip, if you have 1 vial of each it would be 1.5ml of each per week and they can be mixed in the same syringe (although depending on how big you are 3cc's may be a lot or not, also to save some discomfort have extra needles and use a fresh one after drawing the 2 compounds). Enanthate is a long ester so weekly injections are possible.
Why only 6 weeks? Do you have PCT and ancillaries handy?