posted Thu, 11/15/2012 - 06:17
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Constructive Criticism Please- Test/EQ/Dbol/Winny
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Hey dudes, I'm looking for some adviceon my cycle. I'm planning on running it like this:
Weeks 1-10 500mg Test cyp
Weeks 1-10 400mg EQ
Weeks 1-4 50mg Dbol ed
Weeks 6-10 50mg Winny ed
This is my 4th cycle. 1st was test only, 2nd and 3rd were test + winny. I've heard and read eq should be run for 12 weeks minimum, but have also seen cycles where it was only run for 8. I also was just told by a friend not to run dbol and eq at the same time, but I've never heard that before now. Any help, thoughts, advice, etc. would be appreciated. Thanks bros!
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Thanks for the replies fellas. I'm going to drop the dbol and save it for another time. I put on 20 lbs with test alone in 8 weeks previously, so I'm hoping to get close to that again with this cycle, just leaner gains. And this was my first time posting on the forum, but now I know to put up stats and goals when asking for advice. I appreciate all who helped. Revised cycle looks like this:
Weeks 1-15: 500mg test cyp
Weeks 1-14: 400mg eq
Weeks 11-15: 50mg winny ed
Pct will start 2 weeks after last test injection.
up the EQ to 600mg/w
And run it higher than the test?
yep. you can run EQ higher then test, 600mg is the lowest you should go on EQ.
Thank you sir.
I'm new here but if I can chime in... Your friend is right Dbol and EQ are too chemically close to compliment each other. This is why the Deca/Dbol cycle has been so popular over the years, NOT EQ/Dbol. I wont go into detail and burn this thread into the ground, besides, the reading is out there for all that. Anadrol will attach and utilize different areas of the androgen receptors in concert with EQ and is the right choice if your looking for that much weight gain. BUT.. if you go that route drop the Winny. Two orals are far too liver and kidney toxic and besides that winny is better suited for a cutting or small lean mass cycle. If you wanna bulk then bulk. Hope this helps, good luck bro.
Test/eq is a long run. Dbol isn't a good choice in there. 15-20lbs solid is not reasonable. You can put on 15-20 but after cycle you'll lose most in watet/piss.
1-4 prop 150eod
1-14 eq 600 split mon/thur
1-16 test e 600 split
17 prop 150eod
18 prop 100eod
Pct starts 2days later.
Ai...i prefer aromasin @ 12.5Ed when estro comes up
Gs/cdaddy pct to me is the good route
Clomid 100...100...50...50
Nolva 20...20...10...10
Aromasin 12.5 12.5 6.75 6.75
Food dictates outcomes...not gear. That is a minimal good approach
X2+1 on the cycle. Judging by his cycle he is looking for clean solid gains then he could add tbol for the first 6 weeks at 50mg/d. Me personally,I just started my winter cycle and am adding tbol week 2-8 so by the time I come off the tbol the eq should start to kick in.
"You can put on 15-20 but after cycle you'll lose most in watet/piss."
if that is happening then something is wrong^^^^^^^^^^^^^You should not loose most, and really shouldnt being holding much water on test/eq. But I do agree with the d-bol, bad choice for this cycle.
Agree! Was meaning when running a watery stack...much of the weight is water load. It's just preference of the user if they want 20 watery to finish with 15....or drop the dbol and 15 is the finish kept.
way too short on the eq. avoid using two orals in a cycle especially if it is gunna be that short. mast is a good substitute for winny.... also dont add two new compounds to this next cycle.. i noticed that you would be new to both eq and dbol. those both cause blood pressure issues.
So what do you think, drop the dbol and extend test and eq say 4-6 weeks?
Might as well take the eq and throw it out bc it will have the same effect if u run it for 10 weeks
Stats or no stats, do some compound research bro cuz ::Sesame Street song reference:: "one of these things is not like the others, one of these things just doesn't belong..." LOL ;)
lol...i love the sesame street reference
Stats please.
I've read 'em off your profile, but post 'em up when you're after cycle advice. What are your goals for thus cycle.
5'10” 190 lbs. Not sure of body fat, last time I checked it was 11% (6 months ago).
I'd like to put on about 15-20 lbs, but I don't want to get too bulky, if that makes sense. I know dbol isn't for lean mass, I just figured it would help me put on some size quick, then the eq and winny would help me lean out a little bit and dry up. But that's why I'm aksin' all you genius mofo's cuz I've done a lot of research but don't have the experience just yet.
YOU KEEP NEGGING MY GUYS I WILL BAN YOU..GOT IT!
Dude I didn't neg anybody!
Neg for asking for stats????
did you just lose a point there?
2 points, that's life eh.
I have your back bro... points are back not having members negged for asking for stats ever!
Cheers mate.
yea its unfortunate