posted Wed, 07/03/2013 - 14:23
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Can anyone recommend a first time user's premade stack?
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I remember one of the top sources had something like a mass stack or similar that said it had everything you needed. I'm just looking for an affordable premade stack that I can start sometime soon. Thanks for any help or info you have.
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there is no "premade stack"
if you are using steroids you should know everything you need. If you need a premade stack that tells us you have no idea. Read some more. Go to google and type in "first steroid cycle" 99% of it all will say test only 500mg per week for 12 weeks plus adex and pct. So you need to do some basic math and figure out how much you need. Well test 250mg/ml in a 10ml bottle ok for 12 weeks you will need 3 bottles. You will need a pack of clomid and nolva and arimidex or aromasin. But sorry to say you won't be able to just buy it all in a pack you got to shop around for yourself
as for saving money, well maybe you should look into another cheaper hobby if money is tight because you do NOT want to go cheap on a cycle you will fuck yourself up. Some people try to skip using an AI due to cost and they end up with gyno then have to spend up to hundreds of dollars purchasing letro, nolva or at worst gyno surgery. All it took was a $60 pack of adex and this wouldnt be a problem but some people are cheap and well you get what you pay for.
Food alone will cost more than your steroids
Thank you for the info. I definitely need to research more and since I feel like I still need to drop 10-15 lbs, I have a little while to research.
I will not skimp on quality for price, that's for sure. Sorry if I sound like a noob and rushed to post looking stupid. It's just when I get into something I go all out! It's a little overwhelming but I have to just sit down and read. If I can teach myself how to make music and run a studio I need to apply that same drive to the research here.
Thanks again for the encouragement. I'm really thankful I found this forum!
Bruddah, I'm new to the game as well. I went threw seven months of research before finally pulling the trigger. Trust me when I say this...... you need nothing other than test right now! I wanted to go for "the gold" also when I was ready to get started. I did plan my first three runs based upon my goals and you can see that in my pics and profile. I can't tell you how happy I am with just test alone for my first run. Ive been able to monitor my workouts, diet, pins, and AI's all very well because I only had one compound to deal with. I now have a very good understanding of what happens there. If you need to know details or just want to shoot some questions over, just PM me. Best of luck.
first time user? stack test with nothing. maybe add in a little nothing special.
you'll get great results with just test bro, try it out and see how your body adapts.
nobody should start out shooting heroin...smoke a little weed first.
Haha ok sounds good. I was gonna check out hulk's website but the store was down all day. Maybe 4th of july week he's closed?
biggerthanyouWhat's up man? No source talk in the open forums!
What are your stats? Age height weight bf%??
First time users should start with test only first cycle to see how your body reacts to exogenous testosterone.
Test e @ 500 mgs per week split into 2 shots one monday and one thursday.
Before you start make sure you have pct and AI on hand.
Pct should look like this
Weeks 1&2
Aromasin 12.5 mg per day
Clomid 100mg per day
Nolva 20mg per day
Weeks 3&4
Cut the above dosages in half!
Ok now as far as your AI, I would recommend aromasin for that as well
Start your cycle and wait until week 3 or until you see yourself bloating to start your AI.
Then it becomes personal preference, I would recommend starting at 12.5 mg every other day. If you are bloated raise that to every day, if your joints start getting stiff or creaky drop it to 12.5 e3d.
Good luck, hit me up if u need any help!
Wow thanks for the info! Can I edit posts? Sorry about discussing sources. I'll delete it if I can!
I'm 29, 5'11, 219 lbs bodyfat is unfortunately around 15%. I definitely feel like I need to lose another 10-15 lbs before I start a cycle. Been working out heavily for 1.5 years, have a personal trainer, have my macros set up on an excel spreadsheet lol. Protein is around 225 grams a day. I take the standard multivitamin, fish oil, oxy pro, creatine, pre, intra and post workout products. I just want to take it to the next level.
The info you outlined, is that a 10 or 12 week cycle? Thanks again for the info man I really appreciate it
Very well said. X2. +1