posted Thu, 11/19/2015 - 03:02
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What should I be looking for from blood tests? Is it just the t-count? I see recommendations to get blood tests done before, during and after the cycle. But not much mentioned on what to look for.
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Wheres that pic bobo?
Camera shy man. After the input from here, I've decided to wait for another year of lifting and gain more weight.
Try this macros:
270g/200-270g/120g-(p/c/f)
p/c/f? Protein, chicken and fish?
Naw homie it's Peace and Chicken Feets. Just how MedDex signs off sometimes.
Wirklich...Narren machst du Witze?
Protein... Carbs... Fat.
Post up a self pic please............ im getting jittery here.
Have you been living under a rock......... or are you still at junior school?
Unfking believable...lol...
Wird diese schlecht beraten Greenhorn schlafend am Rad verdammt....oder was??
You read my mind bro... smfh :/
I am using this.
Weeks 1-10: 500mg Testosterone Enanthate per week
Optional: Weeks 1-4: 30mg of Dbol per day (split in two doses, one pre workout, one 12 hours later)
Weeks 1-12: .5mg of Anastrozole Every other Day (EOD)
Weeks 4-12: 500iu's of HCG per week (2 injections of 250iu's, same days as test, but not in the same syringe)
PCT starts week 12, two weeks after last test shot
Week 1&2: 40mg Tamoxifen (nolva) per day
Week 3&4: 20mg Tamoxifen (nolva) per day
Week 3&4 Clomid 100/100/50/50
I'll also be taking supplements:
Week1-6 milkthistle
Continuous: Vitamin C, and LIV52
Agree with bros below needing a little bit better base...at the minimum 1-2 yrs more lifting. Also, that could give u some time to get both diet and weight regimen balanced..
I know we cant keep ya from doing what u want, but at least take what we say into consideration.
Two compounds arent good for first time bro.....and ur ai needs to be prn...
Also, why wait till I am heavier? What's the difference? I'm trying to understand what's happening in the background.
I'm confused about the weight. How much should an ectomorph weigh? Wouldn't I be putting more pressure on the knees by becoming too heavy?
I know what AI is. What is prn?
Thumbs up for coming here prior to starting ur cycle.
Why do u want to cycle for 10 weeks?
Do u have ur AI and PCT already?
I got an email today saying that it is being dispatched.
I am not starting the cycle till I have everything, including the blood tests.
Technically...this post.should be move to....?????... where....BUT...OP wants to cycle....sounds like it...sooooo...he is going to get cycle advice???
Lets see....
For the mid-cycle test, how long into the cycle should I get the test taken? I'll be taking test-e for 10weeks.
And how long after the cycle after the cycle is completed?
5th to 6th week on midcycle
6-8 week mark Post PCT..
Post cycle history?
This ur first time cycling?
We dont do it this way....
U post ur cycle and we.will look at it....
Dont build it behind our back by asking questions....
We build a rapport here at EROIDS....
Thank you, sir...
There are a lot of posts here.
This is my first time cycling. Yes. Never cycled before.
I'll finish creating my profile as soon as I can.
+1 fella.
Quite a lot of this going on at the moment. In the PCT and anti e forum for example. I don't think it's intentional given its mostly new members and I, like you, am doing my best to educate on how it's done and making sure the right info is provided and encouraging appropriate posting in the right place.
Thx
Post BF. 160 lbs. 70"
Post Diet.
Post lifting regimen.
BF: I'll test again and post. Last count was 18%
Diet is 165g protein, 600grams of vegetables(cauliflower, broccoli, spinach, kale, mushrooms, red cabbage) and lots of fish, beef and chicken.
Lifting regimen is: Stronglifts 5x5 with assist exercises. I also do other exercises such as swimming and martial arts.
At 5-10, 160lbs at 18% BF I don't see any muscle base built naturally here. Seem to be jumping onto gear very prematurely.
Not sure we should be dishing out cycle advice here????
It's 5'11.
I've been lifting for a bit over a year, 3 times a week except when sick. And I do other sports.
What kind of muscle base do you mean?
You're using steroids after training for a year? You've built next to no muscle naturally and are using gear way too soon. A guy of your height should be 20-30lbs heavier with a lower BF before even considering steroids.
It's important to build the base of a decent physique before considering steroids or you'll struggle to hold onto any of it long term. Your stats suggest you don't eat enough and / or correctly. Shouldn't be a short cut.
This is old now, but worth a read as long as you can take it in the way it's intended rather than personalising it.
https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/lazy-steroid-use
For my height, my weight should be around 155 - 189 lbs according to these charts. I don't want to get too heavy and put too much strain on my knees.
Brother please do not mistake normal peoples BMI charts etc with anything regarding Bodybuilding........... regarding the charts i have been morbidly obese for 40yrs!!......... lol
Totally new and different headset needed when we talk Bodybuilding terms brother..... anything for "normal" people bears no relevance to a full blown Bodybuilder, throw steroids in the mix and we are then talking stats from a different planet.
I'm an ectomorph. What kind of weight would be normal? I'm confused.
I get so hungry sometimes and when I eat more I put go up to 80+kgs and I start worrying that I am becoming overweight despite working out and doing sports.
Bobo,
If you're worried about being 80+ kgs... what is your purpose of running this cycle in the first place? You definitely need a more naturally sound base and training, but what is your ultimate goal and reason for wanting to cycle?
I wanted more muscles. I know there is a contradiction between weight and more muscles.
Work with a macros that will support the calories below:
Using HBE you could benefit from:
-1707 cal to maintain w/o activity.
-2646 cal with activity (1.55)
-3146 cal (min) to gain weight. If u can up 2Kcal and hit 5K with a decent macros u will get results.
More time eating and lifting equals more muscles, bro.
At minimum 180 lbs 15% or less BF, imo for ecto..
U are 160lbs and 18%...thats some good work right there to meet the goal i posted above using diet and cardio and lifting prior to aas use...
I can wait. Won't take me long to hit 180lbs.
You mentioned not to take two compounds for a starter. Test-e and dbol. Why not?
Impastable said it best. Ur excited.to get 180 w/o aas? How long do u think it would take ya? If you can get to 180 lbs and 15%.in 6 months..i commend you bro...especially being ecto...and remember i said minimum 180, in my opinion....i only know what works for me...if u get a good run doing nuthin but natty, food, and liftin..u may exceed ur goal and hit 200 lbs...
I know this is a marathon, not a sprint. Thanks for the advice!
It's a safety precaution. If you take two compounds that you have no experience with and start receiving side effects, you won't know which compound is causing it.
I understand, thanks.
Also, why wait till I'm heavier with lower BF? Not trying to dispute, trying to understand.
Lower BF% tend to result in not only less side effects, but increased effectiveness of the compounds in question. You're going to get a lot more bang for your buck so to speak running AAS say, below 15% than you will at 18% and above.
It's not so much just hitting the scale weight that we want you to wait for. You've only been training a single year, so you don't have a solid muscle base built up that can't grow past it's natural limits. Once you have a very well defined muscular base to work with (even at 15% BF) you're going to benefit a lot more from AAS usage because you will be pushing your growth beyond what is possible naturally, and you won't lose your gains as excessively because the muscular base will be there already.
Edit: We're not trying to discourage you from running AAS, we're just trying to get you to do it the most efficient, safe way possible. Believe me, I'm an ectomorph myself, and I'm now 120lbs heavier than when i started lifting.
So don't use steroids then? I don't see a reason for you to do so.
I'm morbidly obese by the way according to those charts despite my BF being half of yours. Not particularly relevant.
i have to agree.
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MeDx, I'm a male. Is there a male hormone panel? Or can I just ask for a female hormone panel and these figures?
There is a male hormone panel. But,.a female hormone panel will cover the basic tests mentioned below.
A female hormone panel is an inexpensive test that allows the person to see whats going on inside the body prior to cycling, mid cycle and six wks after PCT.
The values for CBC, CMP, LH/FSH, TESTOSTERONE and ESTROGEN offer a theoretical explanation when bloodwork is collected. You need a baseline...thats why pre cycle bw is important, as well as, any findings that may warrant a person not to cycle, which could be a plethra of reasons.
Mid cycle bw gives u the opportunity to see your baseline change, whether it be evaluating your compound via test/free test level, elevated RBC/HGB/HCT/PLT, shbg, liver enzymes while taking orals or titrating ur AI based off estro levels. Monitoring electrolytes is important too, which is the main reason our SA and AV node cause an ionic contraction.
Post cycle bw gives u the values you need to know if ur PCT was effective and whether or not u recovered from your hpta being shut.down by exogenous testosterone administration.
So many people tell me that they didnt think bw was important pre cycle. Then they contact me after starting and have questions about their cycle. One of my questions that cant be avoided is, "did u get precycle bloodwork"...when they say no...it turns their answer into a hypothesis.
Get precycle bloodwork. Get midcycle blood work and get post cycle bloodwork.