posted Fri, 02/27/2015 - 12:34
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Topic closed. I got too many replies that just meant "oh you already killed your test production for lifetime so you should never do a cycle again".. Even that I'm a little sarcastic person in life, this was a little bit too much. Thanks to one person who got in touch with me for great discussion that I needed.
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Fucking sad ,
Thank you for taking part in the discussion
You negged pege because you disagree with him? Lol...
Corrected the neg...
Really up negged pege. Dude solid as they come and he's had a hard road in life. Honestly it is sad that u have nothing in prospective and living for today instead of for the future it is sad
Don't take me wrong, but I'm really tired of hearig I should regret what I have already done to myself. Maybe it wasn't the smartest thing, but its done and I have no impact on it anymore, so I just take it like a man and let it go. I had something, I lost it - I will keep enjoying life as it is.
You can likely still recover after one year. not easily but there is a good chance at your age your body might come back
lol, wait until that TRT dont work as well, you wont be so excited about it! I hate the shit, its a joke compared to natty, fucking 22? damn son your about to fuck up your life! I know nothing anybody says is gonna change that, no worries im just some old grumpy fuck thats tired of steroids!...Ive made some REALLY stupid decisions in my life, but self prescribed TRT was by FAR the dumbest thing ive ever done!...Goodluck to you my friend, I hope you dont live to regret it like I do!
Well I didn't come off for over a year now so I have fucked myself up already anyways. Crying about it isn't going to help me anyhow so I just take it. No time for regrets brother
:)...Oh there will be Plenty of time for that, about another 50 years for you to ponder your decision! Theres just no crying about it while you're still having fun, I know it was fun for me too! Soak it all up while you can
Ok here is conclusion: as I have still 5 months till i start all this I'm gonna check out gh by itself at 3ius for 15wks just to see how I'm gonna feel. If it does good for me then ill run it at 4ius 5days a week. As I wanted to add tren by the end of cycle, I will have short ester on hand and use it for last 6 weeks only if I feel I really need it. Discard igf and I'm not even thinking about slin unless its couple weeks before show.
while i dont agree with you cruising at your age, im not one of the other guys who wont give you the time of day just because you havent reached that "magical age 25" yet. personally, i think that rule, while it is good and helps many unprepared younger guys from fucking themselves up does not apply to everyone, and is used to loosely as a black and white finite rule where as we all know there is much grey area in this game. there are always exceptions and ive seen many young guys like yourself more educated and ready than most 30 y/o guys wanting to cycle for the first time.
having said that, i dont think you will find the answers youre looking for here. there are other boards where the members will focus on the question of your cycle rather than focusing on the age of the OP. and its not this one unfortunately. under 25, prepare to get flamed.
myself for instance started cycling around the same age, i did all my research prior too and could name compounds, ancillaries, their actions, countering sides, everything before i ever pulled the trigger. i went to my physician before even starting to tell him what i planned on doing. got bloods done, checked with him on my development and growth plates ect. guess what, although every keyboard guru wont believe me when i say this and will swear up and down im lying... my physician said i was good to go to run a cycle... this is when i was 21 y/o! he said, he understood my goals (competing) and understood i knew the long term commitment and wasnt going to give me the afterschool special because we both knew that AAS can be used safely. all he asked is that i get regular checkups and bloods done to make sure i remained healthy. and i still waited another year after that visit to start my first cycle!
the moral of the story is, as you said. adults will do what adults want to do and really its up to them. if they fuck themselves up, yah for them, it was their decision and as long as they are willing to deal with the consequences so they arise then i cant do anything nor say anything to change their mind. just be smart about what your doing, and just because a bunch of members on a forum say so doesnt make it the only option or the right on. everyone has to make the executive decision for themselves.
best of luck -kapsize
I feel just like reading my own story, just except going to doc before started cycling, in my case I went after to get checkup. I am young but I was living "college life" at ages 16-19 as I didn't grow up in the states and I have grown up much faster. Now I live in the US and ppl at my age are mostly still kids wanting to party and I already wanted to calm down and to nail that I got my own kid and was lucky and blessed to get right person to do it and get married. Why did I really bring this up now?? To prove I really know what I want in life. Cheers man
sent u an FR brother. we are on similar paths. i feel you, i grew out of doing "college life" stuff by the time i was 18. stopped doing recreational drugs, started training. never took more then a week off since.. i got to hand it to you brother, most guys twice your age dont have everything down yet. its refreshing to see another young guy who has his shit together and walks to the beat of his own drum. much respect.
btw, is your trt cruising self prescribed or did an endo put you on? just curious, thats the only thing that i would be concerned with man.
Actually so far its been self prescribed but my friend referred me and open minded endo that will most likely agree to give me the script if I tell him what I did. So I'll probably make it official very soon
while im not going to tell you what to do, i highly advise you go to see your endo before its too late and TRT becomes a must. if youve only been cruising for a few months. a shot of GNRH, and an aggressive serm protocol will most likely bring you back in no time but i wouldnt go on trt this young. i HIGHLY advise against it. its one thing to cycle at your age and im not telling you not to but dont make the mistake of self prescribing trt to yourself. i guarantee its a big mistake youll regret later bro.
Hey brother, I just read your post and looked at your pic and I'll admit my knee jerk reaction is to flame you. I'd like to rip you a new asshole, chat at a mod to have you banned and move on but I'm not.
So because I'm playing nice I hope you'll hear me out and give my advice a little consideration
There was a time that I was 22 years old like you, kicking ass in the gym full balls sauce juicing and feeling damn good. I know where you are at trust me. I got to thinking about it and wondered if anyone could say anything to me that would have changed my mind about the juice and how big of a dumbass I was being. I don't know if anyone could have. But no one did so I will give you a little free advice.
So at 22 there I was kicking ass, much bigger than you (the blessing of being an endo) and feeling good, no responsibility, party, show muscles, kick ass. That was fine and dandy until I realized I still had a life beyond lifting weights that I wanted to live, school got damn hard sports were over, the perfect girl sold the marriage thing to me and the juice party was over.
The muscles started to go, my natty test sucked, I was too damn poor to afford juicing and my low t levels made my ass so depressed that I wanted to eat a gun. On top of that I wanted to have kids but couldn't because my nuts weren't working any more.
It took me a long time and a lot of work to finally get my boys to recover. Every damn day of that recovery I cursed my younger dumbass for juicing like I did. It was a tough road. Had I been smarter I could have kicked ass natty during the tough times not wait 2 years for my fish to swim again and wouldn't have screwed up my Htpa. Bro the depression was a bitch.
At any rate brother you know as well as I do that you don't have the genetics to become a pro body builder, it will never make you money. Life comes at you fast. Live for the long term bro, think about the kid thing? Ever want your own kids? I didn't but that changed and holy shit kid, you think a shot of test feels good, try pulling in from work and having three little kids come running screaming daddy! As the run to give you a hug.
Think about the future, go make something of yourself, have kids, grow up and then come back.
One of my biggest regrets in life is living for that 22 year old moment.
Just my two cents. Good luck, be smart, and be safe.
All my love,
No homo
Ed
Such a true way explaining how most of the younger guys are when on gear... How do I know because I also was that man and not a shamed to admit it..
Funny thing is that when I was young and growing by the minute, people would ask me....What gear should I take....funny thing is..my reply would be don't even bother with gear at a young age...problem was I didnt action that myself..
Gonna plus 2 you for your comment on this post fella
Thanks for sharing this but.. Who told you I live such life?? I (i know its funny and doesnt make a difference) am actually 23 (lol idk how i got it wrong) and I have a 2years old doighter with awesome woman whom I have married. We both decided if we ever want another kid we will adopt one from a poor asian country to give him/her a chance in life. I totaly understand what you want to tell me and I appreciate it but those things are not my concern. About my genetics - if more people tell me I can't do it the more motivated I get. I may never win a show but I want to have memories and show something to my grandchildren one day. Thanks man
You are right, I don't know your history, just sharing mine..when I was a kid your age.
Thanks for sharing the info on the kid and wife..having a two year old gives you a little grown up credibility in my book (not enough for me to give you cycle advice) but hey you win some you lose some.
Good luck man.
Ed,
My respect for you just doubled.
No homo.
Pasta
Thanks dog. No homo Back atcha
Accept my FR arturp I want to help but I wont on the open forum
Face the reality - everyone is doing whatever whenever they want and if can't just ask question then I have no clue why this forum exists. I'm on because I needed it to continue my progress and I'm so sorry I did that before golden point of 25th birthday. Ive put on almost 50lbs of muscle naturally and I'm wuite aware of my physiology. So I'm aslong one more time; do any of you have experience adding tren towards the end of cycle??
That's actually not why this site is here, it's based around a review of sources. We are all aware of the reality of the situation, most will do it anyway, that's part of being younger. It doesn't mean we're going to encourage or condone it.
Sarcasm isn't likely to help. You've been here 6 months, you know how it works.
alright you have my attention. Why do you need to continue? And not being sarcastic, this is an honest question looking for an honest answer.
Because I want to compete in future. That is my long term goal
In what group?
Wherever my work takes me to but def don't want to go on the stage lighter than 200 lbs . I still have TON work to do but I dont want to compete with middle wieght, fk that I want to sorround myself with better than me and keep going
Why not though? If you're a hard gainer as you say, you may not be genetically competitive enough against the monsters in the ring. Why not see how you stack up against middle weights? Why not move up, and get your cherry popped low, get that stage experience at a weight you know you can excel in.
Maybe because being skinny is something I always wanted to hide and I wouldnt be that comfortable on the stage with psyhique some lucky people can reach with no major struggle. I'm always aiming a step higher and stay hungry
You might get someone to PM you...i told you kudos for your progress....why not TA, though, rather than TE, since it is new to you?
I was just thinking I'd get tired of pinning that much, it for sure wouldn't help that much with on cycle lethargy but I'll def reconsider that
Thanks for being super helpful guys. Now I know everything I damn wanter. I am so incredibly sorry for being honest LOL.
If you wanted advice atleast have pretended to be 25 lol
Yeah true that. I have edited my post lol
What about your stats, though???? U might want to update something there...
https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/anabolic-steroids/test-tren-eq-...
There you go bud. All you need to know. No need for thanks, go pound down some burgerone and some potatovar
am i the only one here who sees the major inconsistency in bringing that story up all the time!? ...how does it make a difference if he was 18, 21, 28, 35, or 45 y/o? messing with insulin, and gear in general has risks but those risks dont automatically compound on each other the younger the user is! the problem here is lack of knowledge, not age. personally i feel that we should try to focus on how well prepared and knowledgeable someone is and base advice around that rather than going by how many candles are on his birthday cake...but hey thats me
I was merely bringing it up because the OP stated he was willing to use insulin... Three cycles in does not warrant insulin use I'm... I was addressing the lack of knowledge, throwing that out there like "hey, I don't mind using insulin at 22" isn't exactly going to have anyone running to them with advice... This shouldve all been handled in PM if you ask me.
Tink22Seriously....
Too bad Vike is not here anymore.
U never know...he may just pop up....plus it would not hurt the OP to double his calories and give his body a break....
My body has a 8 month beeak from gear. Just cruising 250/wk of test to maitain and I actually eat dirty now. With my body I don't get any fat anyways but while I blast I will eat 5k of very quality food
Your are destroying your hpta. Your only 22 and cruising how bout maintaining your health. Glad your looking forward to been a slave to the pin for the rest of your life
I m fully aware of what I've already did for myself and I take it all or nothing. Only thing that brings me hope is fact that many pros went that way and they reached something. Im not sure if I will do the same but like I say I take it on myself
How is your body on a break when your cruising 250mgs/wk ??
Tink22250 is a very common dose for people to "cruise" on. It's light and keeps thinks functioning properly
I am not giving you cycle advice becuz you already no more than me and we cant advise people under 25. Anywayz, kudos to your gainz and progress. However, what are your goalz for on cycle blast when wanting to use tren e and watch it kick in with the synergistic effect of HGH?
Im not looking for "synergistic effect" but to blast in full. I just love effect of wellbeing in addition to just growing
Well you will get synergy regardless....you gotta know that by now....good luck....stay on top with BW....