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Beginner i need some suggestions & advice

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Hey everybody i'm new here, trying to formulate my first cycle, want it to be something remarkable, specs: 25, 5'11 205 roughly 14% BF: Target Specs Post Cycle: 215-220 9% BF: strength gains is really what i'm looking for and body fat reduction: i am thinking about running, Test E @ 250MG a Week1-12, Dbol 30MG ED 1-4, Nolvadex 20 MG EOD weeks 4-12 or as needed increase or Decrease dose, and Clomid 3 week step down PCT, Also to reduce BF% iw ant to run clen somewhere in there but not sure dose i should run or what result it will have on my gains =.= Please veterans, need some input, Critique this please
Thanks.

White Bolt's picture

as others have said, 250MG of test a week is pretty much going to mimic what your body is already making AND shut you down... so i would go with 500mg/week for like 10-12 weeks. forget the dbol since youre a first timer... forget the nolva during cycle instead use arimidex 0.25mg EOD at around week 4 (IF YOU ARE SEEING SIGNS OF GYNO/BLOAT etc) because some guys just don't need it... ummm, pct the standard here at this community is CLOMID 100/100/50/50 NOLVA 40/40/20/20 two weeks after your last pin for 30 days.

as far as gains/fat reduction is all up to your diet broski.

goodluck

ironman86's picture

appreciate the input, everyone is suggesting the test only route during, thanks for the PCT outline, aprreciate it

ironman86's picture

what about caloric intake the first few weeks right now im on a basic roughly 2000 calorie a day diet, all clean high protein, and i train usually 5 days a week, cardio incorporated at least 2.

fast48's picture

SuperDbag is a smart cookie with food programs. Click his nname and friend request. Youve done awesomely with the fatloss!! I just want you as safe as possible hete so you have a great time growing. Other sites ive been on would just auto click a cycle that id never even think of posting. Everything is here so after you collect data....definitly will help dial it in.

ironman86's picture

appreciate the input, i will keep researching, i have been working on my diet and work ethic only for about 2 and a half years now, lost 140 Ibs naturally and dropped to 9% BF, i still got a lot to learn before i actually do my cycle and alot of collecting , anyway appreciate the info bro's

DBG's picture

Holy shit!! That's a big change brother..good job!! 140lb loss and BF in the singles is quite an accomplishment...NICE!!

fast48's picture

Research the forums for a few hours in all sections. Double check pct. SuperDAG has ya corect!

I like how folks bust on with cookie cutter cycle without having the OP perform any research! Anyone thinking steroids better be researching and knowing exactly what goes in their body and why. If you want premade cookie cutter cycles go to another site!

DBG's picture

there is plenty of info on FIRST cycles in the forums...use that search bar up in the corner. RESEARCH..RESEARCH...RESEARCH

and then ask questions, and then some more questions.
I like how you posted your stats though, thank u.

boom88's picture

Sine this is your first cycle I wouldn't use dbol at all. Especially not tbol. Your need to see how your body is going to react to a new substance and how are you going to know if you adding more than one. Saying that, there are a few thing wrong with your cycle. Test e dose is low. I would start at 500mg per week w1-12. Nolva should not be ran during cycle. Use adex at .5mg e3ds. U might even want to start at .25 and then up it to .5 if sides appear. Pct should not start until 2 weeks after last pin. Pct protocol should be ran with clomid and nolva. You could even add aromisin in if you wanna be real safe. They're your nuts not mine. So cycle would look like this

W1-12 test e 250mg twice a week
W3-12 adex 5e3d might want to start at .25
Pct starts week 15
Clomid 100/100/50/50
Nolva 40/40/20/20

Please don't start your cycle until you have everything especially pct/ anciaries.

With the decease in body fat test will only help do what your already doing so diet is key to drop body fat and cardio.

ironman86's picture

good input a read a few post that co-oberate this type of cycle i am seriously considering test only/ clomid adex PCT thanks for the feedback

Nooch21's picture

Research more you gotta long way to go before you jump into aas once you gain more information you will feel alot better about your self being on you will also know what to do when the unexpected occurs on cycle. Research this site it has tons of information. Also drop the adex and use aromasin way better adex has estrogen rebound. Research research research long way to go still but keep it up. And dont be afraid to ask questions thats what were here for !!

ac89's picture

Since you are thinking lean, switch the dbol to tbol. Also use an ai not nolva for estrogen control.
As far as clen goes, I hate the stuff, it kills hearts.