posted Thu, 10/18/2012 - 14:14
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So, i wanna to cut some weight and lean up, would it be ok to use Dbol as kinda an aid in doing so? like not running a full cycle, just dbol ED about 30 MG's and a PCT Adex or something for a month or 2? anyone tried this\ what was the outcome?
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yeah i have researched clen for a while, but i agree i dont think it will be necessary, and i am scared shit less of it lol..
my advice... if you dont know how many calories and carb/protein ratio for what you are eating now figure it out. Start by increasing cardio slowy working in more and more. extra couple minutes or extra day at first... You are gonna want to eat all complex carbs:oats,brown rice, whole wheat products. Cut current carb intake in half. Stop eating carbs, no carbs or as lil as possible after 4th meal 6 meal a day plan. You will continue taper carbs down lower till you get to only 100/day lotsa water... Eat tons of green veggies. do this process for about 8weeks last 4 weeks should be at only 100 carbs a day. Give this a shot 1st bro...Do this for 8 weeks see how you look what you think. It's all in the diet and training...Gear only works if you feed it properly. Maybe you have your diet down? idk I'm saying at 26 if you do as I say and increase cardio to 5x a week 20min. I think you can probably achieve your goal my just doing this... First run w/ juice, you're gonna want to see what it does and try to gain about 20lbs, and not try to cut so much. imo. Hit me up if you have some questions I not the smartest guy here but I can help I bet. My wife used to tell me I've been pluggin into a genius 5x a week she wished some would rub off... I think it did caused I divorced her ass.
first off LMAO, very good info bro very easy to understand, diet and training is my main focus, juice is a science experiment in the making, much more research to do, i appreciate the input, the diet plan looks promising, i try to eat basically only complex carbs now, the increase in cardio may be exactly what i need thanks for the reply
That's very smart, and I would like to just say that at the least.
On the note of diet, it's everything. On cycle I could literally only gain 12 lbs if diet was incorrect, whilst if diet was on spot it would be twice that unless dirty, which would be nearly thrice in bodyweight, twice in fat though. If that makes sense
Clens more hardcore than any AAS that shit fucks your heart ryt up.I would stay clear of dat SHIT only use that if your job is a pro bodybuilder and even then i dnt think its wuff da risk.not avin a go just saying my bit
Research clenbuterol, my wife lost 10 pants sizes with a proper diet, do your research 1st though, clen can be very dangerous if not taken correctly.
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I see, so MG wise like enthanate 500 a week or lower dose? increase caloric intake, or keep it the same? frontload, or stick to pinning twice? sorry for all the questions
can you be a little bit more specific? what would you do?
no need to apologize, i see exactly where your coming from, thanks for the input.
Yeah i have used a few, and as i said i would never waste my time on an oral only cycle, i'm fully ready to pin, but im only 26 so why aste my natural test? i have used thermogenics and a few are beneficial but coupled with diet and mass cardio you lose muscle mass, see my dilema?
Test only cycle and concentrate and resaearch on how best to manipulte diet and caloric intake to reach your goals
can you point out exactly what is flawed with the question? Dbol is typically used at the beggining of a cycle, as i sort of jump start till test or whatever else your running accumulates in your blood, the results, strength and muscle mass gains, muscle mass reduces BF, i dont see the big drawback.
You could do this but your just not gna get what you want.yes if muscle is gained fat will drop if diet is good but your not gna gain fuck all muscle with dbol its all water weight after your 4 week pct you will have lost all gains and maybe a few extra pounds cz your still not fully recoverd hormone wise your body could well still be in a mild catabolic state.dbol is ran realy for insane strength kickstart sometimes added water weight b4 test kicks in then what you lose in dirty bulk frm dz the test will take over in steady muscle gains leading to some gains in size aftet pct as this is muscle gained with sum slight water unlike the massive water weight off dbols.i think you should have a read around forums mate for 4-5 weeks then come back and update this post and you will be amazed at what you will learn am still learning 12 month down the line AAS is one complex world of its own but if learned it can be a real help.i am going into surgery soon and i know with what i have learned over a year i should be bk to being 100% and more in half the time with my new diet,supps,aas plans all learned from here dnt feel bitter abwt any bad comments people just want you on the ryt tracks but it can be anoying when you think you have asked a good question and get beasted but when you do some more research you will know it makes sence why people give you that reaction its happend to me when i first started chatting with folk.
That's good feedback, i appreciate it, i have researched quite a while, but there is always room for improvement, i understand the hostility, my question was worded badly, and LOL i didnt even put my stats, i am always learning, thanks for the input
Your ryt there allways room to learn more No problem mate.
was a general question, i've never cycled and have researched quite a while now, Dbol helps to reduce BF i have gathered this, its also very liver toxic, i know this as well, as i stated i wasnt talking about doing an all oral cycle, just using Dbol to reduce BF, thanks for the input
Thanksa for the input @ everyone
since your so critical snk what would you recommend? and stats/ pic?, also i meant dbol 4 weeks PCT 4 weeks
Not critical bro, just this particular idea you've come up with shows zero knowledge or even an attempt at research. Along with no stats waht would you expect?
i diet 365, workout 5-6 days a week cardio about 2 days intervals 2 miles before weights and 1 mile after. 5'11 205 26 yrs old... roughly 14% BF atm
yea i wouldnt ever do this.. that's my opinion tho.. hit up the weight room with hard cardio and have a diet on point..
lol wow
Uhmmm no... bro don't be lazy, dial in the diet and hit cardio