posted Fri, 07/27/2012 - 04:38
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Atempt #3 at a cycle
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Stats: 34yr, 217, 6'2"
Train 2 on/ 1 off..... 30 min cardio in morning
food: 200g raw protien, 100g supplement protien, 150g carb. 150g fats
Goal: put on mass/ lean mass
4 yrs ago att 1st cycle, unfortunatly did little research.
It was Sus 250 1c mon/thurs for 5 weeks, good gains ,no pct so lost most.
Last yr was att #2 : 2 iu of Riptropin 5d/2 off for 10 week, start Sus 300 week 3 (1c mon/thurs). Was making unbelivable gains until week 6 started having intergestion / chest pain, short breathe after i ate. I stopped the Sus, continued with the Rip.
Going for #3
Was thinking Test Cyp with Rip? 12 wk - PCT: Nov/Clomid - Adex on hand
Still learning so input is very much appreciated-Thanks
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CleyonBro it sounds like you jumped in too quick the first few times, but Zewi and Tread have given you solid advice below. I'm going to add something completely different... Mindset.
What I mean by that is you seem like you're jumping onto things without planning it out in detail. Hey, we weren't all born scientists! So here is my suggestion, look at the two options that have been setup below for you, and start researching EVERYTHING about each piece of those pies. If you have questions about Test Prop, or Test Cyp research it. Learn what they do, and how they work. Same goes for the AIs, PCY components, AND diet!
Once you are confident that you have a handle on how all the components work together, create your cycle plan, and PM it to someone you trust (Tread, Zewi, Viking, ect) and ask for their advice in private. This helps to drown out some of the noise that always happens on forums.
Start you're diet/training routine. Once you've been able to hold those almost perfect for 90 days, then you are ready to take the next step.
After you have your cycle SET IN STONE, start shopping. Buy your AI, and PCT components first. Then buy the fun stuff, this will keep you from getting too excited and starting off wrong
Last thing, stick to your plan! Don't expect it to be noticable the first week, or first month. You should be a robot, doing everything perfectly.
If you do this I can PROMISE the results will be spectacular.
tread-mBrother you on cycle and maybe even life habits are what got you in trouble last time. Let me guess, no AI on cycle? So here's the dealio, you ran sauce at twice a week for one and there is serious flucuation there not being used poper and esters bouncing test value all over the place, just begging for water for one and that was a very big part of your breathing issue in and among other things. Follow the guidelines here and you don't have these problems this time ok. Some will tell you drop the hgh but I like the balance. You are not going to have "any" hgh effect running hgh in short runs but you will at least supply the other half of the axis need with its use and that will give you greater test effect, so fin. I will say if you don't want to cruise the hgh to next cycle at least continue it at 2 iu's through pct. By doing so you are creating a higher positive feedback loop in the axis prompting natty test back online as the nolva pushes to fire LH back up and get everything rockin. So its this for me below and follow the instruction after the cycle I post ok, it will prevent those breathing problems you had and be a healthier roll as well.
1-14 test C @ 600 split
1-16 aromasin 6.25 eod
Hcg if desired...250 every 3 days whole run or 250 every 3 days 15-16
1-20. Gh @ 2-3 iu's ( I might run 1 for week 1, 2 for week 2&3 then 3 whole ride)
17-20 clom 100/50/50/50 nolv 40/40/20/20
Keep the run clean and use total cal intake to goal given you did not mention total goal. DRINK WATER ALL DAY EVERYDAY AND LIMIT SALT INTAKE. That combined with your AI and you eliminate the breathing issues you had before. Follow those simple rules and this is a success for you brother, you just didn't get it done last time in the AI and water/salt dept last time and it killed your run! Letro on hand and take your supps and check your bp DAILY to make sure water retention is kept in check. If you get in trouble anyway on water and breathing there are qauick fixes but if you do the work you will not have an issue here. Supps should include saw pallmetto, glucosamine chondr.oitin, fish oil, a a baby aspirin, pottasium and your other desired daily supps you like. Watch the bp bud, yours was elevated too high last time without need, could have likely cleaned you up in 48 hrs but you didn't have the tools yet to do that. No excuses this time, get it done right and you have your new homie's to help as you go! Lol.(all advice complimentary not to be used in conjunction with any other offer, rebates not available on 2011 models member FDIC)
Poetry in motion... Tread on top form today... he always brings it strong when he gets plenty of sex at home! or anywhere else for that matter lmfao!
tread-mLol...home is a state of mind to us brother!
You pegged it! No AI last time and very little research. Im so glad I found this site, You guys have been very helpful. Going to drop few pound before I start this time. Will post before and after pics. Sent you friend request because I'll have more quest. Thank you for the Input!
zewiTread.... in depth latly on everything.. Guess i have to step up my posts..good stuff
http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/how-to-run-a-cycle
Very helpful, thanx.
zewiDiet Diet Diet—make sure your body is at peak so you see the best results—Do this for the next 30(maybe 60 depending on BF) days before you start your cycle.
Cycle for you—What I would do on my 3rd.--Since i dont no what your goals are--WHAT ARE YOU GOALS??
1-4 Test P 100mg EOD
1-12 Test C/E @ 500mg a week (Monday/Thrusday)
13-14 Test P 100 mg EOD
Arimidex .25mg e3d to keep bloating down and estrogen in check go to .5mg e3d if nipples become sensitive, or .5mg ed.
If you have hcg 500iu a week
Start PCT 3days after last shot—take Arimidex up until you start PCT
PCT
Clomid 100/100/50/50
Nova 40/40/20/20
Yeah, holding excess bf in legs and mid section so i plan on droping at least 10 lbs before i start. My goal is Put on as much lean mass as possible. Thanx for input!
zewiDiet Diet Diet.. Chicken Chicken Chicken---
Get your Diet going good before you even start, get that BF down to minimum 15% and if you do that--and your Diet is in Check.. The next cycle you run you will get the results you are looking for. Remember Its 80% Diet 20% gear--no Diet no results.
Id be spending a lot of my time in the nutrition section.
Will do
tread-mBOOM! Might even go as far as 95% diet .
TxBigBoy100% diet, 100% training, 50% gear. Giving it 100% wont get you to the top! 250% is what it takes!
zewitrue.. but if i put 250% diet--id be pissing protien... and im sure id shit chickens.
TxBigBoylol sounds about right
zewivery true.. 95% better be diet if you want too countine too look good. 80% gets you there/started, 95% keeps you there...