Anyone frontload EQ or Deca??
Want to hear experienced users who have tried frontloading long ester like deca or eq your opinions.
I have been researching on this topic for awhile and decide to take a shot. I've read somewhere that if you want to front load enanthate ester you will double the dose on first week, and for decanoate or undec ester you need to triple the dose to reach peak level on week 2( remember it was 2.7x for deca and 2.9x for undec).
Do you experience any strong side effects from front loading?
And is there any potential risk like dangerously high RBC for EQ?
Any other opinions are also welcome.
Stats:
Age: 31
Height: 5'11
Weight: 240
BF: 16
Prior experience:
Have 9 cycles under belt. Last one was Test 250mg and Tren 750mg. Tried most injectables other than primo and all at moderate dosages.
Goal:
Want to do a lean bulk in the next couple months so decide to have a basic test/eq or test/deca cycle.
Wondering if I can use frontloading to save the time spent on reaching peak level.
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You can front load EQ but it's not going to help much, EQ is a real long runner, Also be carful of RBC with EQ, You wont be happy when your eyes start bleeding as your stroking out-I give blood twice on 14 -16 week run of EQ. I have front loaded test e but that was just because I couldnt get my hands on some on a prop ester. Never front loaded deca, always ran it at a low dose only for joint pains...
I generally frontload my long esters. The idea is to reach plasma peak quicker by taking higher doses on the front end. I do my loads a lil different than most. Example:
500/wk dose of enanthate
Week 1:
Mon - 500
Thur - 500
Week 2:
Mon - 500
Thur - 250
Week 3-last week
Mon - 250
Thur - 250
That's just my preference. Undeca ester I some times do a double frontload but it still doesn't reach peak until around week 4-5 bc of the slow release of the ester. I've gotten to where I prefer bold cyp over eq. A one week front load and sides kick in. Peak is reached much quicker and you can get away with a 12 week blast with it. Only down fall is the shit seems to crash for apparently no reason at all.
As for your RBC. When running eq, I like to donate blood about half way. That takes care of that issue.
IronMonkI use to front load all long esters-instant effects but instant sides too....
Front loading eq is bad because I hated the instant curse of hunger so I perfer tappering up now and the instant spike in RBC is no joke very dangerous
Front loading deca would be okay IMO though ...didnt get many sides
I went through a phase where i was frontloading everything. cant say i experienced any problems. never used the formula you speak of but I did double frontload test-e once with near cardiac arrest results.
actually explain to me what you mean by 2.7 and 2.9
2.7 and 2.9 times of target dosage on first week. For example if you were to do 500mg deca a week, you will be injecting 1350mg(500*2.7) on the first week so you can reach peak level on week 2 according to the theory. I just looked up the article its called "Frontloading Basics and Dosages" posted on another forum.
I have used this formula for all my frontloads and its worked great. double the weekly dose day one, then start the cycle day 2. so if you are running 650mg/w it would look like this...
mon 1350mg
tue 325mg
fri 325mg
ive used it with deca, but i also ran a frontload of test same day.
RustyhookerI have frontloaded eq. Deca wouldn't be prudent.
Eq can superblast rbc. You better post priors and goals.
Did you take any supplement like aspirin to combat the rbc sides?
And does it really kick in on week 2 like all the claims everyone makes?
RustyhookerI asked for priors. Real priors. You Jack your rbc and you stroke, heart attack n die. Im not here to spoonfeed buddy. This stuffs no joke!!
RustyhookerI frontloaded first week only. Another dude on here did first two and backpumps were horrible for him.
No. eq does not hit at week two. Maybe week 8. Its slow cycle. Look at eq cyp for shorter cycle. If bp gets high then donate blood. I had to donate as i started feeling crappy.
Last cycle was EQ, I did a two week frontload and really didnt see a huge difference except hunger kicked in at week 6-7 and had a little bp issue. Used 81mg asprin and donated blood and all was good. Back pumps were a little painful too.
RustyhookerThe pumps were lots bigger for me this run. Tauring 1000Mg hour pwo helped. Some days i hit 500 later in day because pumps. I workout mornings so adjust as needed.
Appreciated for the feedbacks. I barely experience any crappy feeling while on eq in the past but I will definitely get bloodwork done to ensure RBC doesn't go crazy.
RustyhookerHydrate is the easiest and best. Bp monitor at home is cheao insurance. 81Mg aspirin later in cycle slows clotting and helps a bit.