Anavar only, Athletes cycle?
A little bro of mine is a college basketball player and can't/won't wait to cycle. He's been lifting hard(sport specific) for a few years but I've still been telling him to wait until older or at least til off season but he's gonna hit it no matter what. So I'm thinking about suggesting Anavar only cycle for the crazy bursts of strength gains, no bulk, and it out of system quicker. Basketball is a little different do to the amount of cardio, jumping, sprinting, and also a lot of physical contact & leverage down low. I've done a few test/eq and test/tren cycles while playing ball a lot and it always seems to cause lower back pain & joint pain and reduces endurance(could be due to the extra 25-35lbs of weight gain). I know var doesn't aromatize but I wonder if it will shut down his natural test production at low doses. I was gonna suggest 30mg Var ed about 4 hours before practice or games. Also, do you think PCT is really needed? Thoughts?
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Keep in mind, for your friend that winstrol is hard on joints. I was also a basketball player, let me tell you from my past experience winstrol will wreck his joints. I was out of action for about 2 months because of the knee pain, in basketball knees are a necessity.
I have to agree with Logan 1221 down there with the anavar run it at 40-60mg ED, have him try that for 6 weeks.
AnonI d suggest test prop with winstrol if he is looking for big gains and quickness. Anavar will give such huge pumps that cardio is almost out of the question..
I agree with hardbody with the prop and win. I do MMA,muay thai, wrestling etc and my 2nd workout tends to be some type of running, lifting or cycling in the day. Var gives me bad pumps. Also I learned a valuable lesson that had a negative effect on me for weeks until it was out of my system. Do not be taking high doses of test while doing cardio. These guys on here taking 500 mg/wk is for bulking up and it WILL effect your running abilities and also give you pumps that will slow you down for sure especially in your shoulders and chest. Running the win at about half the reccomended dose and test at about 125-150/wk will help with speed and recovery and you will still feel fresh. That was my biggest issue when I was running high doses. I would GAS the hell out and in a bbal game and most sports in general when you gas you lose. Good luck.
remember that anavar will give your pumps. i'm having a lot of trouble with cardio on anavar. my calfes get too pumped to run properly.
This happens even when walking, so not the best thing for an endurance athlete
Is that from lifting or running? How many mg/day? Are you splitting it up through the day?
If he is closed minded and is determined to do a cycle then var will do if he isn't looking for mass. If you are looking for something just to appease his interests than var is the way to go. I assume he is tall and super lean so I would do 60mg/day split into 3 dosages a day. 30mg a day will give almost no effect by it self. Let him see how much it will cost to get the gains he wants. Can you take 1 shot of test every 2 weeks YES but will it yield any results NO. So 30mg of var is like takin a match to your money. Also what about drug tests? Let him know most AAS have at least a 2 week minimal for detection and up to 2 months. Is he is on a scholarship let him think about that one.
AnonLogan, I would suggest winstrol instead of the anavar.. it, anavar, will interfere with his ability to play his sport given the pumps it will give him. You won't get that from the winny and combined with test prop which is quick acting and will be out of his system quickly he would make crazy gains in strength and speed.
Yeah the only time they really drug test is after the ncaa tournament so I was gonna make sure he was off var before february. As far as the dosage, I thought 30mg ed might help him with workouts and performance without any effects on liver or natural test interruption(the little fucker needs to concentrate on ball instead of getting ass so I don't care about his libido). I know the half life for var is around 8 hrs so I thought splitting it up wouldn't be necessary for his goals. But I'm open to input
Again by it self var is not very effective. If he was hitting some test or primo than 30mg would yield some better results but it is more due to the other compounds. IMO if he is dead set then 6omg is best 1 reason is yes the half life is 8 hrs. but you want to keep plasma levels even. Twice a day will spike, 3 times a day will keep them level.At 60mg's he will get a lot of strength and super tight but to keep it he needs to run var for at least 10 -12 weeks. It is the lowest danger when it comes to the liver, so long runs at high dosages will not effect him like lets say 30mg of winny for 6 weeks. Anavar is probably the safest oral there is
AnonIt isn't that anavar isn't effect but once your off cycle the sustainable gains for males is negligible. That is the reason why oral only cycles are not recommended and test becomes the basis for all cycles. Sometimes we don't have to reinvent the wheel. Furthermore, you want to reconsider your suggestion of 60mg for 10-12 weeks it really isn't advisable even given that it is the LEAST toxic to your liver..(this doesn't mean NOT going to have an effect). Women run var for 10-12 weeks because they usually keep their dosages to 10mg.. a usual cycle for a guy is 6-8 wks.
Again by it self var is not very effective. If he was hitting some test or primo than 30mg would yield some better results but it is more due to the other compounds. IMO if he is dead set then 6omg is best 1 reason is yes the half life is 8 hrs. but you want to keep plasma levels even. Twice a day will spike, 3 times a day will keep them level.At 60mg's he will get a lot of strength and super tight but to keep it he needs to run var for at least 10 -12 weeks. It is the lowest danger when it comes to the liver, so long runs at high dosages will not effect him like lets say 30mg of winny for 6 weeks. Anavar is probably the safest oral there is