posted Wed, 11/21/2012 - 23:20
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Okay so here goes...
Stats:
21
6'1
195
12% BF
Goal:
Lean Bulk
Resources :
25mg Winstrol, 25mg Anadrol, Clomid OR Nolva
I know...just orals is bad. Bad on the liver ( have liver sups) No test. Yeah yeah...people still do it. I would just like to know the most efficient way to use the above listed resources to reach my goal. Please contain all negativity or suggestions outside the stipulations.
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post up a pic lets see what kind of frame you got going.
Ight fellas thanks for all the help. Guess ill just order a bunch of shit, blindfold myself and start shooting up and eating pills. Appreciate it.
1jakd_hipyYou want a wahhh burger with those French cries. 1st thing you need to do is grow up a bit then when you manage to gather some maturity come back and we'll help with a cycle
You sound just like my 21 yr old. Don't get the answer you "Wanted" and get all pissy with people that are trying to help you! If you already made up your mind why fucking ask?
Anonthat tren getting to ya buddy? good thing that PC monitor is between you and youngster, or i'd be worried you may try to slap some sense into him. lol
all jokes aside.. [GoJimDandy] Much respect goes to the guys that can humble themselves enough to accept that they maynot have all the answers or that they may have bad ideas. It's through this humility that we learn and excel. Through knowledge and other peoples' experiences, you can reach your full potential without permanent damage to you body.
let's make a deal bro? go to privatemedlabs.com and order a female hormone panel. this is gonna run you about $60 and will be completely hassle free and confidential for you. when you get your results, let's take a look at those natty numbers. (try to keep an open mind here, bc i'm not flaming you - trying to give you some good advice) no doubt everyone wants that test number to be much higher; otherwise, why would we even fool with AAS?
here's the thing, those oral compounds, even testosterone, are going to affect your natty test production. your brain will start getting the signal "there's too much" and will stop producing natty through negative feedback. what everyone here is trying to say is that this is a bad idea for you right now because of your age. your body's natty test production still has not reached its full potential, and introducing AAS while this system is still not fully mature will only cause you problems for the rest of your life.
Analogy: imagine a computer system that is still in the process of being built. if, before this system is completely assembled, you try to power it up, what would happen? chances are you would fry the circuits.. similarly, your natty test production as a system has not been fully "assembled" - just to maintain the context here. by introducing "power" to it (juice) when it is not ready for it, the surge could cause damage to the "circuits" (components responsible for the system's functions) to a point where they may never function properly again.
now back to the results of the blood work.. those natty numbers, if you think they're too low now, you can say bye bye to those numbers as they will be even lower post cycle and most likely for the rest of your life because of the halt in production that will be induced by introducing exogenous hormones at such a young age.. i would much rather see you using natty test boosters and thermogenics in combination with sound nutritional and fitness principles to prep your body for AAS as you get closer to 30. your natty t still has not reached its potential. why not train it to do so now while you can?
so, i want to encourage you to go run this test. if after you have gotten the results and considered the consequenses (physiologically) you are still hell bent on running AAS, then be humbly ask for guidance to do this the safest way possible. trust me, as long as you're humble and openminded, these guys would rather help you run it the safest way than to go at it alone and damage your system more than what's necessary.
No Tren issues just now, I'm mostly a jealousy guy on Tren, not Rage!
It just gets old day in and day out, kids asking for advice on bad cycles when they have already made up their mind and then getting all pissy when someone tries to help them.
Which in plain english just means "Tell me what I want to hear"
AnonNo doubt, I get the frustrations. You've been hearing those lines much longer than I. Maybe we can verbally slap some sense into him. A lot of times, people don't know all the facts - only pieces of them. For instance, he may have read test should be the base of every cycle many times, but never fully understood why. Then again, he may have also gotten all the facts and is just being hardheaded because he's scared of needles. I def get the frustrations. I can deal with someone that is ignorant but not someone who just refuses to listen. Btw, just messing with ya about the tren.
how's those deaf lifts and leg extensions going?
No worries Bro, Me and Tren are sympatico! LOL ;-P
I'll get to either or tonight and let you know.
Your going to make someone a wonderful Dad someday, if you already haven't!
Anonno kids as of yet, but the ball and chain is DEF prodding at me about it. lol. after the last year of improper gear usage, i'm hoping that i can still have them. we shall see!
That won't work, you have to Prod at Her, to get the job done! LOL ;-P
Clomid is used for male fertility. A guy I work with was prescribed for low count and it worked for him.
Anonit was Zewi's thread:
http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/pct-anti-estrogens/pct-for-trt-f...
AnonLmao!! Maybe THAT's it! Working person doing the prodding...
Yes, that is true about clomid. That along with a peptide (can't remember which one it is - maybe GnRH) have been proven to increase sperm count and motility. In fact, there is a thread here on eroids that gets into detail about this topic. The author also had proven the theories thru his own experiments with these compounds and lab work. When I get back to my PC, I'll post the link here.
cdaddy7Excellent advice bro!!! Good stuff!! +1
Anonthank you brother. i can relate with getting it wrong and not knowing better. don't want to see someone make the same mistakes unless they're just too stubborn to listen.
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.PermalinkNo eating pills >:[.. If you want to cycle do one compound at a time..
Alright that was...harsh. I deserved it. Lets say I add the test prop.
At 21, you shouldn't be running gear.
Your wasting your time with oral only, you will blow up then lose all of it 2 weeks after the cycle.. Orals are meant to kick start REAL cycles imo.. Plus a bombs are terrible for someone your age
you would probably need to find somebody that specializes in oral only cycles, not to many pill munchers here bud.
Dude your 21, put the AAS away, pick up your sack, and hit the gym and kitchen. If not learn a whole lot more, cause your gonna need this shit for the rest of your life once you fuck up your natural production!
No one here would tell you something good because there is nothing good about your oral combo. Try a different forum with retarded mofo who have ran this kind of dumb cycle before. Winny and Adrol are very similar compounds and both will be fighting for the same receptors. One is highly liver toxic and the other one is mild toxic. Lean bulk??? Lol... A simple Test E & Equipoise will give you the results you looking for. If you scare of neddles, do yourself a favor & stay away from AAS ;)
mr127superdeewhy will you not use test?
I'll be negative...you would be an idiot to do this.
1jakd_hipyNO!
there is no efficient way to run that, im not being negative, just straight to the point
Nobody is going to advise how to run orals on their own as it's bad protocol, which you clearly already know. Wouldn't be very helpful to you to do so.
Anonlisten to this man ^^^^ these compounds are going to hinder your natty test production. if you're hell bent on running them, you should really consider the test base. i take it you're affraid of needles? a low dose of test would be ideal. maybe even sustanon, since the blend will offer both short and long term benefits plus keep the weekly injections to a minimum vs prop.
Here's how you will reach your goal: set up a good high protein diet. don't waste time with oral only.