Adding Oral into my last 4 weeks of my cut
Hi All
Got a quick question. I have just added oral epistane at 60mg ED into the last 4 weeks of my cutting cycle. It's wouldn't normally be my first choice but I had it to hand and I've run it before so know it works. I'm on 400mg Tren E, 400mg Mast E and 250mg Test E for a total of 12 weeks. Just finished week 8. I'm on a cut having picked up too much BF over the last 6 months. Started at about 16% and am at about 12% now. Aiming to get to 10% by the end. My diet has been excellent and as has my training and the results have been as expected. Some typical sides but nothing too hectic. I'm running .5mg of caber per week and .25mg of anastrazole twice a week. Im also running 250iu hcg twice a week. I'm 40 years old and this is my 5th cycle.
So here my question. My previous experience with epistane and most orals is that it takes a week to 10 days before you feel anything but in this case in day 3 and i am sure I can feel the effect. Joints are noticeably sore/dry (a typical effect of epi), seem more vascular, aggression is up and so is my BP (only slightly and noting to worry about 130/60). Looking a bit dryer I believe. Is it normal to have the epistane take effect so quickly when running it at the end of a cycle? I didn't think so I wondered if anyone else has any simile experience or thoughts. I'm not complaining of course nor am I worried. Just interested in what other more experienced members may know.
Thanks in advance.
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A couple of things. Mast is gonna pull some water out of your muscles and joints and it has (although it is not an AI) anti-estrogenic properties. 60 mg is a hefty dose of epistane, bro, you might want to cut that back to like 40 mg. Epi also has anti-estrogenic properties as well. While sore / dry joints are definitely and epi side, I would just check your E2 levels - I have never heard of Test / Tren / Mast potentiating or accelerating the effects of epistane. You may look a bit dryer as you have remarked and be well on the way to exceedingly low estro and that is going to feel very uncomfortable joint wise. Also, we, generally don't advocate the use of PHs on this website and deal strictly with AAS - so even to give you an opinion is breaking a little bit of eroids tradition. But, you have been here a year and should certainly know that already. Good Luck.
AnonYou took the words right out of my mouth... And yes epi is not gonna kick quicker at end nor beginning of a cycle nor do other compounds dictate when it kicks.... If it were me I would have added in proviron and Anavar to this cycle.. PH is junk... Definitely wouldn't hurt to check e2 levels
Many thanks to you and GearHead for taking the time to reply. I should have mentioned I am and have been taking 50mg of proviron twice a day on this cycle. Thanks for "bending the rules" and commenting on the epistane. I know it's not generally discussed but as I said I had it to hand so decided to use it. I'll take your advice and drop it to 40mg per day. Point taken on the anavar. It would have been ideal. I don't have to hand and given I have to end this cycle on 22 May (travelling from then) it doesn't make sense to try and source this now. More and better planning next time for sure.
I guess you could be right on the E2 being too low or crashed. Labs would be the only way to tell for sure but as I am in the UK and have to go private at some considerable expense I'll need to give this some thought. I will be doing this 6 weeks after PCT is over as normal - when last done E2 was perfect. Thanks for pointing this out though. What do you think about just dropping the anastrazole completely and keeping an eye out for any gyno issues? Doses of test e and HCG are low so thinking about this a bit more it may not even be needed and probably never was.
Thanks again both for taking the time to reply.