posted Tue, 07/02/2013 - 15:14
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Adding eq to deca and test for mass cycle
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I was thinking about adding eq to my deca and test cycle in about 4 months. I gain mass pretty easily, but I would really like the appetite increase associated with the eq to help me in my goals. There is only so much tuna, brown rice and chicken breast a man could comfortably eat in a day lol. I weigh 235-240, 5'11" about 12% bf, but that is subject to drop as I'm finishing up a cut cycle. I plan on running 700-1g teste, 500-700 deca and and drol kicker at 50mg for 4 weeks. What dose should I run the eq at and should I just forget it all together? I know it's a lot of gear, but I'm a big boy with 5 cycles under my belt. Any input pos or neg would be appreciated.
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unless you have made some very incredible progress those pictures you got posted is more like 22% BF. If your waiting 4 months 700 test and 500 deca should be enough to get some great results. whats your cycle history?
I'm on my 5th cycle now, this will be my 6th. Did just test first 3, test deca for 1, test tren this one. I have dropped a bunch of bf this cycle and have not done a pic in about a month an a half. I can definitely see abs and definition now tho. I've been running just test for a few weeks now and I'm gonna start winni in a couple weeks. Oh yea, I have done a handful of orals as well. I ran deca test last time and didn't get the gains I ha hoped for from 400 deca, but I was running test rather low at the time. My body responds well to test at about 900-1g per week. I could always give it a shot at that dose to see how it goes. I can always up it. Just wanted the eq to raise appetite as stated above. Do you see problems with running eq in the mix?
how about something like this for a 6th cycle with your cycle experience
t-bol 50mg/d 1-6 (oral of your choice, t-bol would go good with this cycle)
prop 75mg/d 1-4
test-e/c 700mg/w 1-18
NPP 50mg/d 1-8 (you can up dose to 75mg/d after week 4 if you want)
EQ 800mg/w 1-16
caber 1-9
adex 1-20
nolva 21-25
clomid 21-25 (you should know by now what doses you like to run for AI and PCT)
That looks pretty good brother, thank you. It was pretty much the same except drol for kicker and deca for npp. I have heard a lot of more experienced members talk about npp like it is gold. The only prop estered compound I have tried is test and it is a pain in the ass... Literally. I have given it some thought in the past and I think I will go with your advice. If all of you are wrong about it I can always call you assholes I guess lol. I have never tried the tbol either. Sounds quite a bit like var tho, and seems to be a lot easier than drol to deal with. Drol is a bitch sometimes lol. Kinda uncomfortable doing 2 new compounds at once, may stick with drol and sample next time.
hey bro, im currently running this stack! the gains are good, the sides are fkd, when I say sides I mean mental issues, depression etc, I think im in week 7 or 8 strength has gone up a lot, and im up probably around 8kgs since the start, Im running 1200 test and 600 of deca and eq, I honestly wish I just done test only!! it will kick your ass mentally, I literally don't want to get up in the mornings, and ive been late for work everyday the last two weeks, I had severe aggression for a few weeks, but not anymore, had a gyno flare up even while on aromasin had to bring letro into it, so any way that's my experience with that stack, from now on ill just go with test e with maybe a dbol or drol kick start, I forget how much I loved just test only, walking around thinking im pimp lol
are you taking prami?
caber e3d
I'm not a fan of caber bro, does not work well for everyone. U need to get some bloods together. Sounds like ur estrogen might be too low, need bloods to know for sure tho
lol nah mate not to low!! sorry I don't want this hijacking your thread, I was sharing my cycle so far, I already had bloods done a while back, it was way way too high!!! I have all that shit under control now, my dr was joking and says you have the testosterone of twenty men, and the estro of ten women lol!! im going back next week for mid cycle bloods, then again before pct and after pct aswell
I was just asking because I know multiple people who have ran the same stack as you same or higher dosages and had no sides. So maybe it's not the stack that is giving you the sides but your ancillaries are bunk or something. Anyways not trying to hijack the thread but just saying lots of people run that stack with no issues
hmm, nah think everything is legit, its all from a top source on here, plus my lump went away in like 6 days after letro!! lol definatley have to say I do like letro!! im just weird bro, I already had mental issues, this has just amplified it,i ve never used eq before this so maybe its that.
No big deal brother. Low e can actually cause u problems as well. Your body converts a portion of ur test into e for a reason after all. This can make you lethargic, have skin problems and really negatively effect your mood as well. Best of luck brother.
WithdrawlI know a couple guys that really like that combo. You're a big guy with cycles under your belt, I don't see the problem. 600-750mg a week of EQ would be my recommendation.
What's the goal with this cycle? Where do you want to be at the end of it?
I'm 235 12%. I would like to be at 255 15 tops. I eat pretty well, but I'm gonna try and jam food down my throat this time. Test and deca just do not make me hungry enough an I about get to the point of making myself sick at times. Never done eq, but plenty of experience with all other listed compounds. I'm not a huge fan of ai. I know a lot of people will prolly try to jump on me about this, but I don't take it unless I new it. I don't follow a dosing regime per say, but will throw in 6.5 mg or aro every three days for a week. Have not even had to this cycle on 1200 test e and 600 tren e. It just works for me that way, kiss my ass lol. Have prami on hand always, but like ai it is an emergency thing. I grow well and have little to no sides without. Never had Gyno issues. Guess I'm a freak lol. Appreciate advice fellas, think ill give it a whirl. I'd throw plus 1s if I had karma.
I hear you on the AI, if you don't need it why take it? I tend to counteract estro issues by running provi and mast e just keeping AI available if need be.
Understand you logic re the EQ, if the calories are a problem anyway. Personally never ran deca and EQ together, so purely subjective opinion in that respect. If you're just after the EQ hunger, you should be able to achieve that from a low dose at 400-500mg/wk. You could also consider a tweak to the drol, run throughout cycle 2 weeks on 2 weeks off. Pure mass building which sounds like what you're after. Watch your test to deca ratio, I like 2:1 or more to avoid issues.
Good luck, sounds like you know what you're doing and will be fine. Drop me a line if you need any help etc.
Huh, never tried to run drol like that. Sounds like fun tho. I start to level off after two weeks anyway. Good idea brother. I would have ended up running more test anyway, so changing my deca and test ratio will not be a prob. About the gram level tends to be my sweet spot. Appreciate all the help.
It's an old trick from the 80's but works a treat. Liver gets a break and your body keeps responding rather than just levelling off.
Oops, teste for 16 weeks and deca for 10-12. Tamoxifen 40,40,20,20 for pct. was thinking eq for 16 and increase test to 18 with winni taper