+ 1 About to hop on Test E/Tren E, Looking for some input on doses
Hey ya'll.. Third cycle here. Looking to run test e/tren e cycle. Gonna throw in anavar as well at 50mg/day
3rd cycle.. First cycle Test E/DBol
2nd cycle Test P/Tren A/Mast
Wanting to low dose tren to keep sides down as I need cardio as I'm in the service and I have to run a considerable amount.. First time with tren I ran it 50mg EOD then ED and had virtually no sides. Also ran prami every day.
Looking to run lower test high tren. 300mg Test E M/Th pin and looking to do 400mg tren m/th pin.
what do you ya'll think? Not looking to pack on a whole lot of mass here.. more or less recomp and regain some of the size and strength I had prior to bootcamp where my muscles went to die.
I can't speak much on high tren/low test, but I know running them at about equal doses gave me no bloat and also didn't hurt my cardio really at all.
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No stats?! I can tell by this post that you should NOT be a tren candidate
Hey I know they're not in the original post, but if you look stats have been posted. Please, take a look. I'd appreciate any constructive input from you.
bro you are 21! just eat big and lift heavy!
But in all seriousness.. I ran my first cycle at 19. Everything was fine, I'm fine now. Bloods are good as well. I appreciate you trying to save a youngin though!
Too late.. I've already turned to the dark side.. lol. I've got my reasons! I'm old enough to eat bullets, I'm old enough to juice, and look JOOCY down range lol
yeah the board is full of know it all kids like yourself... enjoy your impotence by 30 : /
Alright. Well. I respect everyone on the board--It'd be nice to get it in return as opposed to just calling me a kid--I know you LOTS of you have more knowledge than me, that's why I'm asking for additional input. I don't claim to be a know it all.. I've made up my mind though. Your help would still be appreciated. Thanks GD
I'm late to this thread. You did the classic Test/Tren/Mast cut cycle as your second cycle so what were the dosages? There may be other options than more Tren and then the habit of Tren every cycle.
I used a a blend from a couple dif sources. did 25/25/25 ED then switched to 50/50/50 EOD
I find blends to be a little constricting in dictating how I'm gonna build the cycle. The labs make 'em so cheap sometimes it's hard to resist.
This upcoming cycle isn't a blend brotha. Test E and Tren E separate. Tren at 200 test a 300 per mL
Anyone else got input?
How were your results in your second cycle?
They were pretty good, lost some cardio after about a month though.. A set of squats had me breathing.
Is it true tren can add lbm even on a cut, did that happen for you?
Yes it is but I was almost always hitting a little over maintenance cals to recomp. It's more than true though. I would guess if you're something like a veteran who's had a few cycles, maybe not as much? Adding LBM and cutting fat at the same time was real for me though.
I'm on this exact cycle, with the same mg ratios, so put up full stats and preferably a current photo and I can help. But if you've take test/tren a/masteron already for your last cycle, there's not much to really know, except enanthate is once a week to twice a week injections.
AnonIf this guy doesn't understand his esters, then tren shouldn't even be in his vocabulary
yeah I realize I shouldn't have touched it at my age but, I did and it treated me well...I'm craving it again lol. Especially with all the juice heads running around post. Too bad they don't feed us as well as I fed myself back home but that shouldn't be a HUGE factor...will have to be more creative.
Yup, you shouldn't touch tren till at least your 4th cycle. 19-nors are a whole other ball game. Wait until you've first: peaked on your natural weight
-peaked on test
-peaked on test and maybe eq or a mild oral.
-then maybe test and a 19-nor. Starting with low deca.
No one waits til they peak naturally physically
Let's just help he did and is going to do it anyway
So rather then tell him what not to do or should have
I prefer tren a
It your ramping dose or playing with it at all its almost instant
my tren e cycle was rough and I was running LLow dose
Yeah I've ran rather safe, well thought out cycles with proper ancillaries and PCTs-- my first two that is. I'm somewhat well educated. Just like I said, wanting some input on doses with E
I was running pretty mild
I was running 400 week on the tren and 150 test so I could get full effect of tren.
the biggest between is your going to run longer
your dose doesn't really have to go up or down you just much what you were running last time tren a. Start there you can always go up
I botched my pct on that cycle and it messed me up pretty good almost 2 years ago
Now my first cycle since them I'm still going with prop and tren a running around 300 prop and 600 tren if i can deal with sides. I'd like not pinning eod or ed
Plus I super gyno prone
I have good adex but not sure about my prami we shall see
My prami was amazing. I could tell you source if you PM me, as far as PCT? my PCT's have always been great. very good. I guess I have good PCT resources. Torem is awesome with some low dose clomid for me. I think I'll start 200mg TEST and 400mg Tren and see what happens.
Good place to start in sent you a fr
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It helps to at least have a picture to see how you look. I have my whole diet plan, weight lifting routine, and max lifts like bench and squat.
Your not gonna to get any advise from people until you complete all your basic stats, at least.
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Sorry ya'll.. I kept about 15lbs from that cycle on ~500 calorie surplus. Treated me well.. I almost wonder if the tren was even a little under-dosed. I was following a template simliar to one I had laid out by 3J's on another forum. Like I said, was gonna go with m/th injects to keep it simple.
My only concern with E is just anecdotal evidence of people saying sides are unbearable then they magically say ACE makes it better lol. I ran prami start to finish and felt fine. Libido fine, and prami actually made me a happier camper than anything. lol.
E can be rough it's longer ester is why I prefer ace short hard cycles
vs long
Ace you can adjust dose quickly
E your stuck on the ride until your body breaks it down .
If your gonna run e. You should run min 12 14 weeks
All I can say about tren enanthate is that you have to make yourself eat like a "heathy pig" the reason it has a 500 anabolic rating is because of the food absorbtion efficiency. 1gram of protien become the equivalent to 10grams ect. I pin it twice a week Monday and Thursday. But it can be pinned ince a week. I'm on Xanax so my dosing may not be suitable for you because I didn't feel anxious or have insomnia. I did a 1-1 ratio. Some say more tren less test for less side effects like insomnia, rage, and anxiety. Other don't mind more test. But it all comes down to your diet. Tren can make you feel like your not hungry so I ran ghrp-6 cjc/ blah blah combo with it and I ate like crazy on it so I gained 45lbs. Our food is the bricks for the house your building. It doesn't matter if you have 10 extra helpers (steroids) if the bricks aren't there than what good is it to take it, you get what I'm saying?
Hey man yeah.. I tinkered with diet while on tren.. I've found carbs are pretty key to feeeling decent on tren, and to refrain from eating more than like 80grams before you want to sleep. I won't be taking xanax.. I'm more wary of the heart effects people talk about.....high blood pressure, heart rate, the anxiety stuff like you said. I presume prami should be able to control all of that.. I never had rage or anxiety.. i did found i needed LESS sleep than normal, but also always took a nap POST workout so.
NOTE, tren has no effects on my appetite, unless it's appetite for women. ;)
Oh yeah, NO Xanax! I was already prescibed that crap.
haha.. I had no interest in that man.. Hey I'm gonna PM you if you don't mind tman
It will also take about 3-4 weeks for the enanthates to fully kick in. I like that, so you he a slow but steady build up. Never pin more than twice a week. Since you've done acetate you might wanna rush it, but just weight and it'll all come together. Torem is great for 19-nors. Like I said, if your gonna run this, make sure you eat 6-7 meals everyday. If you can't then MAYBE try ghrp-6. Eating healthy in tren is paramount. Take omegas and hawthornberry for your blood pressure
AnonStats?
Also, for PCT just gonna run Torem and keep on prami along with DAA and 'romasin.. TOREM ROCKSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS