posted Mon, 02/01/2016 - 08:08
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2nd Cycle... Keeping Gains
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This is not my first cycle, but it kind of is because I think the domestic gear I got the first time was under dosed or bunk. I went with DP this time for my Test Prop so I'm hoping i'm good. I'm doing a 16 week cut starting at 10% BF when I start taking the Test Prop. Suggestion are appreciated!
Cycle
1-11 weeks Test Prop 100mg EOD
6-11 weeks Winnie 50mg ED
1-11 weeks Arimidex .5 E3D
6-11 weeks HCG 750iu a week
Liver Protection
Fish Oil
Multi-Vitamin
PCT
Clomid & Nolva
DAA
ZMA
My question is how good will be Mod GRF 1-29 and GHRP-2 be at helping me keep my gains while reverse dieting? Are there any other options?
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RustyhookerGains is 100% food. Keeping gains is the same. Real problem is a cutting stack used to bulk. If you're scared to hit 12% fat or doubling y Iur calories, your game is done before you even start
mr_gainzTren and cheeseburgers... LMAO. I'm a definitely have to hit you up when I'm ready to step it up to the next level.
RustyhookerCatalyst below. ..makwa and tonytulo are the food gurus. They've all got thick forums on growing secrets and thats the first spot to start.
Big calories. Sounds simple.....food is the hardest. Your picture shows solid rock base so up those calories. Its winter! 12% is still cut. But if you add 15 rock on there......
Winny is a shit drug IMO. Rather run Anavar all day, and be willing to spend more on it cus it's just far superior to winstrol IMO. Vhman is right though, if you are shooting prop be prepared for a lot of pip, cus you can't keep shooting into the same sites Ed/EOD. Into virgin muscle as well will be painful. Just be aware and ready for this is you decide to use prop over a long estered test. What's your diet look like?
Problem with that is Kap is that a lot of the so called Anavar on the market is Winstrol these days. Much cheaper to produce and a lot wouldn't notice the difference. I can't touch Winstrol, makes me feel old with every orthopaedic issue I've ever had reappearing......
That's the only time I'm grateful I'm so prone to hair loss. I know the second I touch winny instead of var because my forehead grows two inches up lol
mr_gainzlmao
mr_gainzThanks by the way... If I wasn't so new and worried about the sides from tren, I would go for Tren/Test/Masteron. I'm definitely not jumping into this blindly.
mr_gainzI do not trust most if any sources for Var these days. Too many of my friends have gotten bunk from sources that are considered legit or Var mixed with some other shit or not even Var at all. Not to mention it is really expensive. I'm totally aware of pip... First cycle it was bad for the first 2 weeks and after that I was fine.
My protein is 1.1grams x BW right now with .35 x BW from fats. Everything else leftover for my cals comes from carbs. I have 5 more weeks of my diet like this until I start the cycle and increase protein until I reach 1.5 grams X BW. This consistently decreases carbs and my fats stay at .35. I also use refeeds as needed.
I also have clen and t3, but do not plan on having to use it until the last 2 weeks.
Way too many pins for a first/second cycle. Prop requires tons of pinning and at least six different sites. Virgin muscle, pip all over, test flu, etc. is what you have to look forward to, not including much more possibility for infections.
Keep things simple and only use one compound at a time and I say folks should become very familiar with it before adding others. Stick with Test-e/c for this and several more. Less pinning and can keep things stable. I'd also bin the peps as well for this run. Also, winnie is horrible for your joints and you'll feel like hell after five weeks.
Again, learn and master the "basics" and if you so choose, move on from there.
mr_gainzI would go with less pinning; however, I only utilize AAS when I am getting prepared for a show to somewhat recomp while loosing weight. My last cycle was 12 weeks although I believe the gear was weak, but I only utilized 4 injection sites for test prop and was able to cope with the pip. I used Winnie for 6 weeks with the Test Prop last time without joint issues until I added Letrozole during the peak week to dry out. I've also have used Winnie by itself and stacked with Anavar without any issues. Not implying I know it all, but I don't mind the extra pinning and haven't had any issues with Winnie.
Sounds like you've got your mind made up... Good luck.