posted Tue, 09/16/2014 - 04:51
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Hello fellow gym rats. I need some advice. I finished my 1st cycle which consisted of test enanthate 500mg a week for 12 weeks with 30mg of d-bol to kick start. And nolvadex for pct. For my next cycle (which I will leave the appropriate amount of time before doing) I wanted to do a cutting cycle. I need some opinions and advice on what to take and what worked well for you. I was thinking about tren but after reading it seems like it's best to leave that until I have a few cycles under my belt. Any advice is appreciated.
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Thanks everyone. Much appreciated. I am going to run test, proviron and anavar with nolvadex and Clomid for pct. One more question, is it worth running arimidex aswell for test e bloat? . Or just have it in hand? I've got letro but heard that it's strong so last resort if estrogen sides hit hard.
Introduce 1 new compound at a time so you know how your body reacts. So either drop the provi or var. How did you handle estro sides last time? Some need it from day 1 some start week 4 some don't need any at all, it's all dependent on you.
Ok thanks. I think my body handled the test well. No side effects apart from a bit of oily skin on face and acne on shoulders. But I'm prone to acne anyway so no biggie.
Just make sure you have some on hand. If you notice some sides popping up then start taking some.
Will do. Thanks again bro
Make sure u get bloodwork. Make sure u eat 1.5g of protein per pound of body weight. Make sure that 75% of your total protein intake is from a food source. If you want to cut, then u have to keep your carb intake between 80-100g per day and make sure you are doing cardio 20 min three times per week. Cutting is more diet than anything. Really test and proviron is all you need. Not going against the good advice down below. I am just thinking about it being your second cycle. Peace EROID Brothers....
Thanks for the advice. I Will take it on board @MedDx so proviron over anavar?
I would for this go around....but to each his own....you will get to see how provi really helps testosterone work better...
Ok thanks. Will do some research on proviron. Thanks again bro. Appreciate every ones comments
@Iron_Monk thanks that looks good, although I will find it hard to pin every day as the Mrs don't know I use lol. That's why I used test e. I understand that prop is better for cutting tho decisions decisions
@Rustyhooker thanks for your detailed advice!!!! I did a lot of research before my first cycle and did see pct that included hcg nolvadex and Clomid. I also read a few sites that said nolvadex only is fine b coz it was a mild cycle.
RustyhookerNolva blicks your nips. Clomid wakes the balls. Yes, different pathways to recovery but balls are number 1.
Best advice is use dropdowns up top. Groups. Join beginners group. Every question is answered and you'll be armed with info before any issue arises. We can repost sll the info but you reading will raise and answer it all.
Thanks a lot. Appreciate it. New to site so didn't really know how to get answers.
RustyhookerNo worries bro. Grow well!
RustyhookerGo research a proper PCT
Someone -1'd ya fr some reason, fixed u up.
RustyhookerThanks guys!
+1 for all the negatives!
Guess they did it again. Becuz i saw it and hit the thumbs up too to get the neg 1 to go away...
Iron_MonkTren is a bit over rated at times my friend.
You can achieve a harder more cut physique using test prop anavar and proviron
Maybe something like
Weeks 1-12 test prop 50-75mg ed
Weeks 1-12 proviron 50-100mg ed
Weeks 8-12 anavar 60mg ed
Good cycle...looks familiar....lol!! I have seen this with a TE/TC 250-500 qwk base, but the TP is used as a kicker and taper for four weeks on each end at 100 eod....this would be bad ass with provi all the way through it and Var being pulsed two weeks on two weeks off....of course running TUDCA the whole cycle....cheers bro...
@irongame427 @PIN_CUSHION thanks for replying. Would you recommend anavar over winstrol then? I have hard muscle under my soft bits lol. So Clomid and nolvadex for pct. Don't shoot me but my impression was they are very similar products.
Theyre from the same class of drugs (serms) but one does things the other doesnt. The Clomid is much better at stimulating the pituatiy to produce LH which is which signals your balls to produce testosterone, but really isn't great for protecting against rebound gyno. Nolva is alot better at doing that. Nolva does a better job of stimulating FSH but remember both drugs do a little of both, but each do one better then the other so together you get the most powerful stack and best chance of recovery. And I would definitey suggest winny over anavar. Winny is so damn rough on the joints imo its unnecessary unless your competing. I love anavar its a great drug for cutting, my favorite and only oral i will ever use during a cutting cycle and for me and alot of other sides are little to none. It can be rough on lipids so supplement accordingly.
Thanks. great info. I will be using both for my next pct. Gonna use anavar aswell for cutting cycle. I have heard about winny and dry joints!!
Iron_MonkI would. Anavar is amazing and winny sucks imho
Var=hard cut strong vascular lean
Winny=dry sore joints lethargic
What Irongame said, or you could run Test and Provrion. Proviron isn't liver toxic, but does have an effect on your prostate, so you would need to take some saw palmetto. It may also cause some hair thinning if predisposed to MPB. Also include Clomid in your next PCT.
X2 on the Test and provi. A little better for a second cycle...
Can't go wrong with Provi, I will have it in all my cycles from now on.
Its a must....like protein....lol!!
No tren way to early for that lol. My suggestion would be running the same dose of test with something like anavar for the last 6 weeks. Anavar is a awesome cutting drug it makes you hard, vascular, strong and they even say it takes stomach fat. Idk if I ever noticed that but whatever. The sides are also low it's pretty mild on everything excerp lipids. It can be rough on them so proper support supps are needed. Run the anavar up until pct so during your two weeks with no test injections. It would look something like this.
Weeks 1-10 test e 500mg ew
Weeks 6-12 var 50-100mgs ed