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hi Guy first time i've posted on here. Found this site really informative.

So I'm doing my 1st cycle having done PH's in the past.

I have two 10ml vials of fuerza labs T400, plenty of nolva and armidex to run through if required.

I was originally going to do 1ml for 10 weeks however as i've acquired an extra vial I was thinking of doing 2ml week 1 and then running for 11 weeks at 1ml per week.

what do you guys think?

I will then hold off for 2weeks before starting pct. may introduce some clomid in with the nolva for pct

gatorbits's picture
##your not ready to run brother, what happens if you drop or loose those two vials, my house got broken into late last year and someone got all my gear except a small amount of test E, lucky I was able to get a fast replacement, but moral is even when your completely prepared for the cycle, you never know what gonna happen! and your not ready with two vials, come on...this is serious take it as so!

also you don't get ten shots from ten mL ever, some is lost in the pin and needle each injection and over time you get about 8, one mL shots from a 10mL vial!

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con81rad's picture

I hadn't thought of that. Please see below for your other queries

con81rad's picture

Don't think I will need 10 vials. LOL.

My source is pretty good. I can get extra within 2 days

ripitup's picture

what esters does the t400 have from fuerza?

my first cycle I did test e and for me personally it was like 9 weeks before I even felt anything or noticed a difference.

Things I would say to anyone starting with long esters is that you may want to kick start the cycle with a couple of weeks of DBOL or similar whilst you are waiting for the long esters to bring your test levels up.

5ft 10 at 82kg and 14% BF I would say that you could gain more with a good diet before steroids, I would recommend posting up what you plan on eating, its not as simple as pinning steroids and hoping to grow, training and nutrition are a massive part of it and if you have just dieted you will have to go back into the mind set of eating more again without the worry of body fat...you will gain body fat too and water! so you not only need a good on cycle diet but a plan for when you come off to maximise fat loss and maintain that muscle you have just put on.

400mg per week is probably a little low in my opinion, I would shoot for 600mg so 1.5ml per week and kickstart with some DBOL every day. (others will disagree I am sure)

I wanted to maximise my cycle so after the 12 weeks I then went to short esters pinning EOD, same dosage/MG but the half life is much less, so after 12 weeks I ran test prop EOD for 2 weeks, then 3 days after last injection started PCT, so you effectivily get 14 weeks on and still start your PCT at the same time.

Injecting.....if you have not done it before, some points that may help you.
I find it easier if I warm up the oil first, so I get a small bowl or dish and place the vial in warm water for 5 minutes, for me, this makes it easier to draw into the syringe and easier to inject.

Fast in...and slow out, commit to putting the needle in, take a breath and go, ASPIRATE, then inject (fairly slowly), then slowly pull out.

You will get blood come out after, the more you do it the better you will get, now I rarely see a drop of blood after injecting, but first time you will no doubt be a little nervous and shaky so you may nip a blood vessel on the way out.

hope that helps a little in some way.

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Test e, cyp and prop. The e and cyp equal 375mg so your right larger dose might be better.

Diet is pretty much sorted I've put an inch on my chest in the last month and have lost about 2 from my waist.

Will start to weigh out my foods. I eat no processed foods, chocolate or crisps and v little bread so I'm ok in that area.

Average day will be

Breakfast porridge 2x boiled eggs

Midmorning 2x boiled eggs, peanut butter 1 slice of wholemeal bread.

Train

Lunch whey protein water
Tuna 1x tin sweetcorn, pasta mayo apple

Midafternoon handful mixed nuts, apple

Evening meal meat 3veg

Before bed mackeral fillet or cottage cheese

I'm prepared to add a bit of fat to get the most from my cycle. These though will mainly be from nuts, eggs etc.

gatorbits's picture

"Diet is pretty much sorted I've put an inch on my chest in the last month and have lost about 2 from my waist."

then you don't need juice!

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con81rad's picture

I know I am making progress minus the gear however I have been training for about 8years and feel ready to push it to the next level.

con81rad's picture

cheers mate, 1-12 weeks on then week 15 start pct seems to be the norm.

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Use the reply button when responding to someone's post. Also give this link and the links herein a read through
http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/pre-cycle-protocol
http://www.eroids.com/og/beginners-cycles/introduction-into-beginner-cycles

con81rad's picture

Thanks I think I've had a read of these before. Will gem up

con81rad's picture

age 31
height 5.10
82kg (just dropped from 88kg dieting hard)
BF approx according to scales 14%

P's picture

Ok, fill out the question marks first, then i can start to advice....also in the mean time, click on community>groups>beginner cycles group, join the group and read some of the information there.

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finafan's picture

You need to post your stats before anyone will help. Cycle history,Weight,height,body fat,age, and any other info you want to share that could be useful.