posted Thu, 02/21/2013 - 21:20
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1st cycle trouble
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I just completed my first cycle and it was pretty much a complete loss. It condisted of 13 weeks of 600mg a week of test cyp, .25 of adex eod. I didnt exsperience any raised libido or sex drive at all! Did seem to get better muscle pumps at the gym. Blood results week 7 showed test > 1500 and estridol at 18, im trying to figure out what my problem is before I think of another cycle. Any input is appreciated
Stats-25, 5'9, 191, 13% bf
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Im supprized nobody said it could be too low estrogen. 18 is kinda low and too low estrogen is just as bad as too high estrogen. Maybe try lowering your adex dose a tad.
I was wondering the same thing but all my research yeilds conflicting info. One guy says you dont want it high the other says you dont want it low but im not sure whats the ideal number it should be. I made a newbie mistake and started adex at the beginning of my cycle at .50 eod and I think it crashed my e2 and kept it low
AnonSounds like diet or training was off.... maybe not enough protein intake.. maybe not enough calries..... you can push a mountain of weight but if diet aint on point and good rest you cant grow too well.... 2 g per lb of bodyweight with good sleep you will grow.... we grow and repair in our sleep..... dont give up..... next one might blow up you fine tune this
Man I think everything can improve and im working on all of it now! Im dedicated to this lifestyle everyday and im ready for one of those bad ass cycles some guys speak of and blow the fuck up. If everything is in line hopefully my next one will be it.
Im still in pct
Clomid-50, 50, 25, 25
Nolva40, 40, 20, 20
I blasted hcg after last pin before pct. My diet was not great and im working on that now with 3js but I still dont understand no changes and very little strength and size.
Diet is 70% to 80% of your workout. I ran a similar cycle to yours a couple of years ago i was taking 500mg of cyp and 200mg of prop for about 12 weeks. Wasn't a cycle i would run again cause i got to bloated. Not going to say i didn't feel anything though. Gained about 15lb and got allot stronger as well. I was taking in at the time over 200g of protein a day and eating 6 days a week. Rule of tumbs 1.5g of protine to every lb of body weight
AnonPct is off bro
Clomid 100\100\50\50
Nolva 40\40\20\20
Pct protocol?
What's was your diet like?
Your Cycle doesn't seem proper cycle either. Here is the basic beginners cycle they recommend on here.
Weeks 1-10: 500mg Testosterone Enanthate per week (2 injections of 250mg, Sunday Morning Wednesday night)
Optional: Weeks 1-4: 30mg of Dbol per day (split in two doses, one pre workout, one 12 hours later)
Weeks 1-12: .5mg of Anastrozole Every other Day (EOD)
Weeks 4-12: 500iu's of HCG per week (2 injections of 250iu's, same days as test, but not in the same syringe)
PCT starts week 12, two weeks after last test shot
Week 1&2: 40mg Tamoxifen (nolva) per day
Week 3&4: 20mg Tamoxifen (nolva) per day
I have never seen a vet on here lay out a biginners cycle with 2 compounds.... Dbol is not an option on a first cycle. And also clomid needs to be part of pct at 100/100/50/50
i just copied and past it. Check it out for your self. Its in the Creating Steroid Cycles right above this form. There using the Dbol at a lose dosage to kick start the cycle till the ester gets in your system. Don't really see anything wrong with that but i'd prefer a 150mg of prop instead since its less toxic on the liver in my opinion.
I ran 600mg for 12 weeks I put 13 at first on accident. 300Mg on mon and 300mg on thur
Proviron is great for you libido. On top of it would of been nice with the cyp since it reduces water weight, it makes your muscles more solid and your vanes pop out. Think it fights estrogen too but. Its mild too not harsh on the liver and can't recall getting any side affects from it. All you need is about 50 to 100mg daily i usually just run 50 to 75mg. Google it some great stuff. When i was done with my cycle i was more upset about coming of the proviron then i was from the gear lol.
I disagree bro.. i only use 25mg ED provi even when running monster stacks.... i find anymore to be a waste,.. also if you want a dry running test use sustanon or even better test heptalyte... but the main thing to watch if water is a problem is sodium intake.... meaning steer clear from ANY processed foodstuffs as you control that.
A good motivated bodybuilder should NEVER have to buy food in a day.... EVERYTHING should be home made pre/prepped.... if we are NOT doing this we need to RE-FOCUS and watch gains boot-up again.
From doing research it was recommended between 50mg to 100mg daily for males that's why i choose that range and must say had great results from it. But would love to get the same results by taking less so deff going to try it out at 25mg. Thanks for the advice dude