posted Thu, 08/01/2013 - 19:19
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wanting to run second cycle but have concerns
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I'd like to run a second cycle of test E with a prop kicker and taper but i'm concerned with my job environment. I work a tough scedule of two 6 hour shifts split up a day for 28 days at a time. The most sleep I can get is about 5 hours at a time, easily sleep 8 a day but split 5 in the am and 3 in the pm. My first cycle didn't yield the gains or effects I expected but I did make a newbie mistake and started adex day one and ran too much throuh out. Estridol was down in low teens so that might have been the culprit. Stats are age-25, height-5'9, weight 199, bf-14% any advice is appreciated
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AnonDude u dont have time for gear or working out,
I imagine u live up north where they have those crazy schdules
sleep is a big deal for my body, I dont need to read it anywhere I can tell, I have a hell of a time sleeping, especially right now as the tren is starting to come in play. Almost every night i wake between 1am and 2am to take a piss and I can feel my body has grown a little in my sleep, you know that feeling of being a little tighter like you want to grab some 80lb dumb bells and pull your shoulders away from your ears! but its when i get up around 5am that I feel fuller, kind of like someone pumped me up with a pound or so of air, ah love that feeling, its one of my addictions to this lifestyle. So for me, could i run a cycle with 5 hours sleep? sure i could but would it be as good as a cycle with 8 hours continuous sleep? no!
Quit hogging all the gains! Lol Feeling tighter when you wake up? The only time I feel tighter is when im pumped during workouts. I guess maybe my genetics aren't ideal for gaining muscle but its going to or break because I'm not giving up. Classychassis help me out with some diet tips and I appreciate all the other advice
VewiImo I would switch to Aromasin and because of your work schedule-- I would be doing short runs, 6-8 week cycles. Things like Test p and Anavar, or Test p and tbol.. Or just test p.
bigunJust out of curiosity, what was your adex dose?
.25mg eod it was liquid form from a source on here. I started day one tho and from further research it seams I should have waited a couple weeks on cyp. I think I might just keep aromasin on hand but see how I do without at first. Thanks for the help
You'll be fine, I work 70+ hours over 6 days/wk and as long as I can keep motivated to train hard I'm good. Just make sure the sleep you do get is of the best quality it can be, supplements like valerian root help me get off to sleep more quickly.
AnonSleep is a benefit to the body, it's not a 'must' to a cycle to where you have to factor it in. You're fine to run a cycle at lesser than suggested sleep.
Arimidex at .25mg EOD and have bloods checked prior to cycle and during cycle. If there's an issue, adjust from there.
I'm with Rusty, I get only 5hrs sleep due to running my company with a hr or two nap in the day. Just make sure you keep your diet right. Adjust it to your work shifts. I pull 12-13 hr days 6 days a week. You will be fine. Get as much sleep as you can keep your diet good and work your ass at the gym and you will get the gains you want bud. Happy growing.
Thanks bro for the help, I've read some articles on marine training and they push their bodies to the limit physically and get little rest while still building muscle some how. So I think if I get nutrition and traing along with mind set inline I should be able to push through my schedule.
RustyhookerI typically sleep 4hrs a nite and get a nap before work. If you can do a split sleep shift and keep nutrients high then you can do fine.
Honesty is within yourself though. If you spend the money, time, effort and get lil gains then postpone the cycle. Its a balance of dedication and life can't suffer too much or ya lose the enjoyment of growing.
I appreciate the advice rustyhooker. I can't really postpone the cycle because I'll probably do this forever :( I'm very dedicated to lifting and growing! Honestly its taken over my life pretty much but it seems i wasn't blessed with a bodybuilders genetics. My diet is clean and consist of about 3500 calories but I'm going to bump it up to about 4000-4500 while on cycle.
ClassyChassisProtein is more important than calories. You need a certain amount of essential fats, maybe 80g/day. That's about 700 calories if you want to think in those terms. You need enough carbohydrates to maintain liver and muscle glycogen, anything more will be stored as fat. At 200 lbs/14%, 400g/day should be plenty, maybe 500g /day on leg day. That's 1600-2000 calories, again if you're counting, but "calories" are not the standard. I mean, you could eat 4000 calories a day from donuts, what's that going to do? (-:
At your weight you need at minimum, 400g protein/day and I would go 600g. AAS increase protein assimilation which is what anabolism is really. If you don't consume enough protein you are wasting your time. The difference in gains between 400g/day and 600g/day is day and night. Calorie-wise that's 1600-2400... So, 80g fat, 400g carbs, and 600g protein comes out to 4,700 calories. So that's pretty close to what you envisioned, but it's the composition of those calories that's the crucial part. On-cycle I shoot for 3g protein per lb, and off-cycle 1.5g per lb. Good luck man!
It appears your a guru when it comes to nutrition. I'll be honest im still trying to completly figure it out. Would you be interested in helping me with a model diet if I gave you a list of foods I have avalible? Thanks either way
ClassyChassisSure. FR sent. PM me what you have available, as well as what times are available for eating, when you train, sleep, etc. Anything else you think I should know.