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-5 1st cycle test prop+Anavar. Please help!

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Hey All
Before I introduce myself as a new member, I want to say that I am aware that steroids are not the best idea for my age. I know I haven’t reached my genetic potential yet! Im here like most of you to educate and protect my self with other people experiences and tips.

I am about to run my first cycle and I did a lot of research. It’s been almost 1 year of studying and looking on forums for people personal experiences with their cycle and I finally decided to to one myself. Long story short. Training wise I am good, nutrition wise as well. I am 21 years old, (I know)... I’ve always played hockey at a very high level. So I have a naturally good cardiovascular health.
Current stats:
5’10
170lbs
12% bf
I finished a cutting phase 4 months ago. I got coached by a men’s physique pro with both macro and training and told him I wanted to cut like I was prepping for a show. I did the mistake of not reverse diet afterwards and got some bodyfat quickly back on. I was 155 at 8-9%. I don’t have the genetic to go low bodyfat easily at all. (Big bones, endomorph blabla.) I always was a fatty, no muscle kind off kid. I started lifting at 14 for hockey but mostly for girls. It’s been 3 years now of real gym commitment and heavy personal growth mindset. . Got a nice v shape but still hold some fat around lower back, abs and lower abs mainly. I also stoped playing hockey. So now that you have a little idea of me. Here are my questions:

My goal is to do a 12 week total cycle. I want to lose body fat, while feeling good, I know it sounds weird but I want to have pumps and not feel flat as shit and low strength and low drive due to low cals. So, I want to shred, defined my muscles, get some vascularity, get strong, and feel good while doing it. I also want to fuck my cheating ex girlfriend best friend but thats another thing.

With the research I have made, here is what I have:

Anavar 60mg ED Week 1-7

Test prop 250mg/W week 1-10 or 12

Nolvadex 40/40/40/20

I thought I would inject 5 times a week. 50mg doses.

I also have aromasin on hand. Not sure about how much I’ll need. Or If I’ll need it??

What do you think? I choose test prop because I’ve seen studies outlining like what it was better for cutting, and less water retention,and less bloating and lower half life so I can start my pct faster... but I think that was a mistake, should of probably went for test e for less injection and pain. Why only 250mg a week? Because I would of done Anavar by itself but since it lower natural t while on it, for safety reason... I also want to feel good while on Anavar. But What I am mainly looking for is Anavar benefits. Test is for support and not crashing.

Question 1: is 250mg to little does or to high or its perfect for my goal?

Question 2: is my pct enough? Should I have hcg last 4 weeks? If yes how much? Because I am concern about depression and feeling like crap! I want to recover fast but I don’t want to overkill so is aromasin and nolvadex only okay? Or should I ad clomid, hcg etc?

Question 3: With good diet, training and cardio regiment, do you think I will have good results with this cycle?

Question 4: should I put away my test prop and get another test instead? I am concern about stability in my blood levels... but I am willing to inject 5 times a week on test prop.

Question 5: In your opinion, is it true that test prop has less sides of bloating, less water rentention etc. (Better for cutting overall) or is it complete bullshit?

Thanks man I appreciate the time you took to read and help me!

Have an awesome end of day!

Will

Christophany's picture

"I also want to fuck my cheating ex girlfriend [sic] best friend but thats [sic] another thing."

No AAS needed to fuck a cheating ex-girlfriend's friend. Heed the information other members have already given you, and get your shit together, kid. Don't even consider taking AAS until you are at least 25.

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thomas33's picture

Why are you messing with your hormones at such a young age?

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Sam I Am's picture

History has a way of repeating itself..

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press1's picture

Q's 1 to 5: Four Years Too Young. See ya later......

Dr.BroScience's picture

From the comments you have made you clearly should not be considering compounds.
So many incorrect assumptions.

Get your training & diet on point first. At your age and your height , weight, bodytype you simply need to put in the consistent work. If you can not do that now, you never will.

Makwa's picture

It is not just your HPTA you need to worry about. Cycling at a younger age can have other consequences.

https://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/smoking-your-endo........

heavymetalmonsterD's picture

Way too young and way too light man.. you need diet and training till your like30 bro... you'll get there.. save the aas for your peak10 years from now.. good luck

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Johnny Bravo's picture

I go to festivals and I stay sober...Here’s a rave analogy for you. I used to mix crazy amounts of drugs at a time and I’m still fine. Do you think that’s safe? Looking back (hard to do I really did use a lot of strange things back then) a lot has changed between 21 and 25.

But really as long as u have a solid muscle base at ur current stats ur doing better than most of the population. By the time u hit 25 ur doing better than 99% of it.

I wanted to start early at 19 but thankfully I didn’t know where to find them. I started dabbling in some questionable OTCs too early and now I’m paying the price. I had the “I want it now” mindset earlier (still do) but the difference between 21 and 25 for me is the ability to know it’s not in my best interest to do so until I’ve maxed out and the ability to clearly kno if I’m ready. That’s y once I joined here I listened, learned, and pushed past my plateaus I thought only cycling would get me thru. Still making progress

heavymetalmonsterD's picture

Well said brother+1

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heavymetalmonsterD's picture

Honestly I'm not going to give u cycle advice bro cuz again your way too young..I will say these 2 things though..1 test only first cycle with AI and pct... and 2 I see no AI in your post and your pct is crap.. You need to not do this and do more research man... This is a bad first cycle in my opinion for tons off reasons... First reason YOUR TOO YOUNG Smile
Edit I see aromasin my mistake but again you don't know how much you will need..u need more research... no reason to jump into a cycle at your age man it's just not necessary...

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Hustle28's picture

I think ur giving him too much details smh ur advice should be food and training that’s it

heavymetalmonsterD's picture

That's what I told him in the first post man but i have a feeling he's gonna do it any ways so I'm trying to point his research in the right direction..I am in no way signing off on a21 year old running prop 5 days a week as a first cycle... that's crazy.. but worse is the pct.. that's the point I was trying to make he needs tons more research...I don't see anything wrong with him doing research but I told him a few times to not run this cycle... what he does after my advice is on him

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Sam I Am's picture

If I was you I would delete this and research diet. Theres a world of info on this site. It's not all steroids.

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Makwa's picture

I'll tell you straight up that you won't get much help running a cycle from here. You are way to young and have nowhere near the lean mass to warrant a cycle and you want to run a cutter to boot. You want to be skinny and ripped just throw in a few more cardio sessions.

I can tell you one thing, AAS doesn't make dieting any easier. It is still a chore, you will have lower energy, lower strength, look flat have all the cravings whether using steroids or not so those are moot points if trying to use those to justify a cycle.

Hustle28's picture

But if ?? No ifs bro ur too young quit being lazy and work ur ass off until ur atleast 25+ years old with proper diet and training and then ur cycle being some more proper diet and training for longer you will see gains. If you still do its on you if you fuck urself up so don’t come back here asking for help. Very impatient and irresponsible of you to even do this

Makwa's picture

Try some cyclic bulking. I would never recommend anyone your size to be cutting. Get some beef on your frame first so you have something to show off after you cut.

https://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/the-key-to-quality-mas...

IrishWOLFhound's picture

I am 21 years old

Too young for a cycle.

giardap's picture

Question 6-9: Should I do steroids before my brain has had a chance to mature somewhere around the mid twenties to thirties? Should any 21 year old ever consider doing steroids? Should I learn how to diet properly and take ownership of my metabolism, rather than blame genetics and....... bones? Should I man the fcuk up?

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No.

giardap's picture

honestly fella, do some research into brain development. its a serious thing. +1
try ketogenic life see where that brings you