-5 1st cycle (3rd attempt)
Hi guys,
I’ve heard many times that the 1st cycle is often accompanied by spectacular gains. Well, I dont think I've experienced that yet, thus the title of this thread. The first time, I had to stop 2 weeks Into the cycle because the pip was horrible and I ended up having an infection on my left thigh. The second time, I did gain some weight and strength but my gains were similar to a natty. After doing a blood test, I discovered that my testosterone enanthate was very underdosed. My testosterone level pre-cycle was around 490 ng/dl. After 5 weeks into the cycle, my level increased to 620 ng/dl. That is very modest for someone taking 500 mg of test per week.
Well this time, my gear comes from PHARMACOMSTORE. They’ve been rated the #1 source on this site for quite some time. Their products must be legit.
Here’s my plan for this cycle:
-Starting date: 2018-02-26;
-Testosterone Cypionate: 250 mg x 2 per week for 12 weeks;
-Trenbolone Enanthate: 200 mg x 2 per week for 10 weeks;
-Anastrazole: 0.5 mg EOD for 12 weeks;
-PCT to be determined.
Current stats:
-31 years old;
-6f tall;
-Starting weight is 218 lbs;
-Probably around 14-15% body fat. (my abs are still a little visible).
Goals: 225 lbs at around 11-12% body fat.
Let's do this!!!
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It's weird how I was labeled a ''troll'' when I was just posting respecfully my plan for my next cycle and got insulted for that. My ''karma'' on this site might be bad, but it's all good because it's just a fictitious karma. In the real world, my karma is not in danger. Most of the haters are probably just little kids still living in their parent's basement masturbating to porn in front of their computer.
Fortunately, some of you were polite and gave me good advices. I will ponder on that and take my decision whether or not I will remove trenbolone from my cycle.
RustyhookerTwo truths that exist on this site.
1-neg karma means do not help the idiot
2- troll is here just to cause shit
Kick rocks
The truth is that I still didn't deserve all this hate. True, using Trenbolone Enanthate on a first cycle might sound crazy. It is often not recommended, but what if that is the only cycle I wanna do in my whole life and I wanna go all out? You might disagree and say it is dangerous but do you guys need to insult me? If I harm myself, it's not your problem. At least I am willing to share my ''real life experience'' for all to learn. Most of you guys are just regurgitating what you read or heard. Very few speak by experience. Most of the people who insulted me never even used Trenbolone. Some did and said they had a very bad experience. Ok but I know a lot of people who had an incredible experience too. Researching and taking advices from others is good, but real knowledge comes from experience.
Even you, RustyHooker, with your impressive karma, you are probably not a professional, and if you are, what the hell are you doing here wasting your time in this forum? In other words, even your advices are just educated guesses.
basskiller89Speaking of going "all out"
I just went "all out" on another box of apple cinnamon cheerios
RustyhookerYoure definitly rule 2
even your advices are just educated guesses
Im not the one lost. I didnt read the read because honestly, dilligaf. Figure your shit out alone.
Wait a minute - You decided to do a blood test at 5 weeks in literally just as the Test E is building up and decided off that the gear was underdosed?!
Before cycle, 5/6 weeks in cycle and 2-4 weeks after pct is usually when you should pull bloods brother.
Yes. At 5 weeks test levels should be way higher.
True statement
Why have you not taken the source name out of your post?
Rustyhooker..
Troll hammer dropped
Because your 2 previous cycles were a total cluster fuck you'd make great gains on a test only cycle as your first proper cycle . I think your underestimating a what a test only cycle will if you train and eat right , more isn't always better .
Good comment. Thank you especially for being polite contrary to many others.
So much wrong. Do more research and dial your diet down before using AAS. One compound your first time, test only to find how your body handles it. But you're not ready for even a test-only cycle yet.
I don't think we can discuss Source names here, I could be wrong though
RustyhookerYoure a lazy idiot. You didnt gain bs is because nutrition and gym. But youre a lazy poser. Go find your better options like knitting or phone sex.
Why so much hate?
RustyhookerKnit one, pearl two....
+1 to all the guys below! You saved me a job going in to everything wrong with the op running this cycle! Just make sure you listen and take it all on board brother we are here to help each other, give our thoughts but also try to make sure everyone is going to be as safe as possible. One thing that's not been said is that you need to take the source out of the post up Top! Good luck, stay safe and for God sake listen!!
Your a beginner. Test will do it if your diets correct. Long estered tren is foolish ...
Tren enanthate can be a real bitch. Hear me out. Ok so after 4 weeks your anxiety is through the roof, your having panic attacks, your sweating through your work clothes, everyone starts asking you questions, you want to fight anyone who looks at you wrong....ok now what are you going to do?
Well I will tell you...nothing...your fucked with that shit for weeks more until that long acting ester clears... It's a bad bad place to be!! You have no idea how you will react!
Plus 2 tren e was a bitch for me no problem at all with ace but enth fucked with me bad. I was just happy I knew what I was getting into
Well said !
Edit
I know a lot of people had very bad reactions to it like the one you described. However, I also know a lot of people who only swear by it and had amazing results. If I never try it, I'll never know. The week of trenbolone is not set in stone. If I don't like what it does, I'll just ditch it and continue my cycle with test only.
No one is saying don’t try it there saying you have many cycles to go before you even need to fuck with tren. Do test only first. After a few cycle then try tren.
You cannot do that with trenbolone enanthate. Sorry
Yep, this why OTC “test boosters” are among the most worthless supplements out there. Even if they did modestly increase testosterone, as long as the T level is within the normal reference range, there really won’t be any performance enhancement benefit whatsoever. That’s why it’s the reference range. The performance enhancement benefits begin when the levels reach supraphysiological numbers.
I know we’re talking about underdosed test, not test boosters, but this absolutely validates everything I’ve read about why test boosters are useless even if they do theoretically boost test.
No need for the tren. You’re going to screw yourself...again. Stick to the test only.
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Did you have a bad experience with Tren?
No. Your cycles are like a child being born to that newborn doing a 100 meter dash....you gotta crawl, walk, run, then sprint. Youre a level 1 trying to use a level 99 steroid.
(I know, my analogies are awesome)
It’s a very millennial steroid. Instant gratification. It’s just not worth the health risks for the average fitness enthusiast. Not even close.
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What is it you are trying to accomplish with this post? Validation? Not going to happen. If you really want cycle help/advice say so. But dont get bent when people tell you things you dont want to hear. Most everyone here wants to help each other out and Ive found the people who are most adamant about either doing something or not are the ones who have been down that path and suffered because of it and are just trying to prevent another from the same fate.
I really want cycle advice from you guys. I didn't mean to sound arrogant.
No worries, everyone is advising against the tren because the shit is harsh and it will take some time depending on how long youve been on it to clear out if it isnt for you. I recently added tren a into my cycle because I was looking for an aggression/strength boost. I have my caber and my pharma a dex rolling but let me tell you. That stuff played with my mind. Not just my hormones. For almost 2 weeks I was a different person. And it was not cool. I snapped on my neighbor for unloading groceries near my car then chased the plow guy down the road in my fucking boxers. Obviously everyone is not as mental as me but I DID NOT expect to feel this way. Aggression, yes. Maniacal, no. So I stopped. Now if I was taking the E and found this out I'd probably be in jail right now. Bottom line is your goals you posted can be gotten with out the tren. I would say run your test only cycle. Your right, if you were doing 500mg a week and were pinning on schedule and not bouncing all over, the # you put up is low. Click my name and check my pics, I did test e at 500 last year, my lab work is up there.
Thank you very much for sharing your experience. I guess maybe I should start with Trenbolone Acetate so it clears out of my body fast in case I need to ditch it. How long did it take before you started experiencing those bad side effects?
Rustyhookertroll! Right heres proof. He just said no tren e....so you take it as tren a is ok. Bigdaddycoolknittingclub
LMAO! My wife would probably join that club!
A couple days and I could tell. But I'm not advising you to use tren at all. You essentially havent even run a test only cycle. You need to add 1 compound at a time so you understand 1st, how you react to it. And 2nd how to control the sides. When your test levels get way up there and your nips are burning or youre carrying 20lbs of water you need to address those. You must be able to keep your estrogen in check. How would you know what to address if your running multiple compounds?
You need a first beginner test only cycle. Period. Stop this craziness!
basskiller89Something's telling you to stay away from gear brother
You got bent over with that 500mg a week 620ng cycle lol
Do you believe 620 ng/dl was an acceptable level for someone doing 500 mg of test per week?
basskiller89Not even close lol
I was just joking because you seem to be having such issues with every cycle
No!!!!!! As a rule 250mg of test cyp or enanthate should give you a total test of 1000. Medical textbook answer.
Fuck no!
I know that. I was just trying to understand why he wrote that I should stay away from gear...