posted Thu, 12/20/2012 - 20:56
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15 week cycle review?
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Im 31 years old, 5'8'', 170lbs. been working out 10 years. My body fat is about 9%. bench 230lbs. this will be my 3rd cycle.
week 1-15 test e 500mg a week (split x2 a week)
week 1-8 dbol 50mg everyday (split every 4 hours)
week 8-15 proviron 50mg everyday (split day/night)
week 15-17 HCG 500iu every other day
week 15-17 arimidex .5 every other day
week 17- PCT- nolva/clomid
Wondering about the usage of arimidex. better to use it at .25 every other day during cycle? Would it be ok to use it instead of clomid? start taking it at week 15 all the way through pct?
Any advice appreciated. Thanks.
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Ok my advice to your cycle would be as follows:
Why are you using proviron at weeks 8-15? I cant see a rational reason for this therefor my advice would be to drop it and save your money. If its to free up extra test through binding to SHBG on a price basis i would say you would be cheaper pinning an extra ml of test if thats what you are after.
HCG - I would run this from week 3 at 1000iu once per week up to the beginning of PCT. This will keep your balls online and make recovery a whole lot easier. Do not pin HCG multiple times per week, as it has a biphasic response meaning it stimulates LH twice first being 24-48 hours after the injection and the second being 48-72 hours after injection.
Adex at weeks 15-17, why? The test will be clearing your system over these 2 weeks which in turn at the moment will not cause a rise in oestrogen. Save it for PCT and run for the first 2 weeks instead of Nolva. First week at 1mg ed the second at week at 1mg eod. For the last 2 weeks of PCT switch to nolva.
interesting...thanks for the advice.
Hhmm.....Looks like Im nearly back to my regular dbol/test cycle. I was just hoping to push this one a little more/further. Test/dbol works pretty good for me. kinda wanna stick to what I know. I have just about everything available for me to use, any thoughts on how I can make my test/dbol cycle better? And make my PCT not so harsh on me?
alright. My first 2 cycles were also test/dbol cycles. I only ran the dbol for 4 weeks both times and felt like it would have done me good to go longer with it. From what I know, you can take dbol longer than the 4 weeks but the results are mixed. some say it kept working good, some say they coulda stopped a 4 weeks and been the same. Im gonna find out. after these responses I did some research and decided Im gonna drop the proviron, Im just gonna have the arimidex on hand (never used it before anyway) I still wanna keep the HCG in there somewhere though. In my previous cycles my balls shrunk ALOT and PCT really sucked. Im trying to make it easier on myself so I dont feel like shit and I want to bounce back quick.
Any thoughts?
The main reason for limiting the dbol is that it's very harsh on the liver. I'd urge you not to run it for 8 weeks as a result.
Ill be taking good care of the liver as well. Milk Thistle, LIV52, Vitamin C. As well as Animal Pak and multi vitamins.
Noted. what do you think about bumping it to just 6 weeks then?
I've run dbol quite a few times and in my experience I don't think you'll get any more out of 6 weeks than 4. What dbol does it does very quickly but it has a finite effect in terms of gains that aren't just water. Personally I'm not a huge fan of dbol kickers, I prefer to use test prop.
The key to an easy recovery is keeping the balls from turning into pea nuts.. I'd run HCG by week 4 at 250 iu twice a week (trying to grow them back is painful and time consuming - TIME YOU DON'T HAVE) =] The guys got you covered
I am with hollywood here.. d/bol needs to backed off to 4wks max usage and the provi is a waste in this cycle due to not running any 19s.. also dont see the need for that short blast of HCG either!... adex.. well imo just keep it on hand and feel your way bro,only use it if needed,i do understand your reasoning for having all these ancillaries but this little stack will not be screaming for heavy ancill support,if you had 19s or another 2/3 compounds in this stack i would say go for it but as it stands it the only itchy nip lssue i can forsee is if you dont tolerate d/bol very well.. at the end of the day you do what you think is right this post is only my opinion ok.
I'm wondering about that 8wks of dbol bro, shave it my man 4 will be fine and adex "instead" ehh... Many schools of thought on PCT these days, I'm ol skool and ran straight nolva pct for years. I'm sure you will get many varying opinions
also I am a fan of running proviron on cycle but with this cycle it is completely optional with no 19's being run