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I just got bloods for a current cycle I'm on.. Very interesting results...
Check my cycle page, but basically:
500 mg test cyp per week
525 mg 1TC per week.
Currently week 9, blood tests at week 4 and 8 so far
I started with "SRC 1 test cyp" and tested at 2800 for 500 mg per week at week 4 of cycle. I thought this was low for me, so I switched to"SRC 2 test cyp" at 500 mg per week and tested again at week 8. Test levels were now at 1686, down significantly. I have used "SRC 2 test cyp" from EXACT SAME BATCH at 200 mg per week while on a cruise and tested at 1600, basically same result I get now and I'm currently at more than double the dose. While this makes no sense, the 1 test cyp seems to be affecting my testosterone levels
I stopped using AI and my estradiol is now 21.3
Overall lipids aren't bad, but my HDL is a little low at 16, LDL is 93, overall cholesterol at 131, not too concerning..
But what is concerning is my C-REACTIVE protein. It is 9.07, EXTREMELY high. It was this high before when my estradiol was crashing so I attributed it to that, then it went back to 1.7, which isn't bad, but now back to 9.07
Any thoughts? I just can't figure this 1TC out. I might just drop it. It isn't worth all this BS worrying etc.
For some reason, my test levels are really affected by the 1TC
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EDIT: Sorry, some clown bumped this thread and I didnt notice how old it was. My comment below anyway, as am curious as to how you got on in the end?
Just a thought... timing of the injection in terms of how close to the test could be a factor here??
If there was a test done, say 1 day after an injection, it would show highest levels in plasma, whereas the same inj, with a test at 3-4 days after the inj, would show significantly lower plasma levels
May or may not be a factor?
Also, I noticed you were using TNE in the first 4 weeks? That would definitely effect a test reading.... right?
Well, I did several tests, all at different times from injection. For whatever reason, the 1TC was lowering the effectiveness of the test I was taking.
Here's what I think happened, I'm no scientist so if this isn't logical, my apologies but it's just what I think.
For a day or 2 after my injection (I was injecting both compounds in same barrel) I would have horrible night sweats which would smell like gear. I believe my body was trying to force the 1TC out as it recognized it as an enemy compound and since I injected the test cyp with it, that was being forced or as well. Again, this might not make sense, but I cannot come up with any other explanation as to why my test levels were continuing to drop through the cycle. The first test was 2,800, then 1,600 then 635. I switched brands of test as well to one which I had previously used in a cruise and had tested at 1600 at 200 mg p/w. All very strange stuff. But I will never use 1TC again, my body just didn't like it for whatever reason
that's so odd.
I mean, you inject it, it goes systemic, end up into the blood where levels are measured
Cant see how another compound would prevent that from happening
The only explanation is there was not (much) testosterone in the product you were using??? I really cant see anything else that could have happened?
What would happen if the body tried to eject it before it even got to the blood stream, that's what I was thinking. Cause I either have those horrible night sweats for 1-3 days after injecting. And like I said, my whole bed smelled like steroids. Maybe this is impossible, but it's how I rationalized it. I know the test cyp was properly dosed, cause the same vial produced a reading of 1600 on only 200mg p/w which was less than 1/2 the dose I was using in this cycle. Anyway, I've stopped trying to explain it, whatever it doesn't work for me. I won't use the 1TC compound anymore. I like tren better anyway.
I don't think there is any pharmacokinetic mechanism by which the 1TC could prevent the testosterone ester from cleaving or whatever and prevent a rise in your testosterone levels. My first assumption would be that source 2 test cyp is underdosed. this could also explain why you needed to reduce your AI. I know your test c is from the same batch number, but I have little faith in batch numbers from UGL, but I also wouldn't expect a drop in qaulity from the source you are using. I think the only way you will be able to figure out if the 1TC is causing depressed test levels is to drop the 1TC and continue on with same dose of source 2 testosterone and then retest in a few weeks. Could be an interesting find.
Thanks, that's exactly what I'm gonna do.
I don't have any experience with 1 test cyp. I know makwa has used it, hopefully he will chime in.
One thing I need to mention though is; crp >3 is a huge red flag of a potential heart attack. Plus, throw steroids into the equation and that's bad news bears.
+1 for pulling bloods!
Yes, I know about crp. It's an indication of any inflammation in the body. It can also be highly elevated post surgery, or injury etc. While high numbers can be dangerous, it is much more serious if these numbers remain constantly high for a long time. For whatever reason, mine seem to be going up and down. Very confusing.
Also, normally, off cycle my crp levels are excellent, below 1... On cycle, my numbers are usually around 1.2 -1.7, not so concerning... But I've taken the crp levels 3 times on this current cycle. First at 4 weeks it was above 9.... My estradiol levels were also low at this time and platelets were very high (above 700) which can also be elevated from inflammation. I thought the crp and platelets must have been elevated due to inflammation caused by my estradiol being low. I stopped the AI and proviron and retested 10 days later. Estradiol was back in range, crp was 1.7 and platelets were back to normal. Then this test was at 8 weeks (6.5 weeks after 2nd crp test) and platelets were in normal range, estradiol was in normal range but crp was back above 9.. also, my testosterone levels are falling.. somehow these things must be related to the 1 test cyp. All I can think to do, is drop the 1 test cyp, continue cycle with 500mg test cyp and retest in 2-3 weeks.