posted Mon, 03/13/2017 - 13:07
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Sensitive Nips. Aromasin NPP
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Currently on week 4 of NPP/prop cycle. Dosing 150 test to 100 NPP. Love the results but this morning I noticed sensitive nips. Chaffing on the right side. I take 6.25 aromasin ED and I haven't started caber yet. I'm aware caber is E3D just never had an issue with prolactin levels until now.
I've searched the forums and came up with various answers but nothing specific to my cycle.
I'm sitting at the following conclusion. 40mg nolva ED. Caber E3D and aromasin 12.5 Ed until symptoms go away. Either that or just drop the NPP until they go away.
Any suggestions or experience working with this?
Thanks.
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RustyhookerFix your stats. Read below. You're pinning is wrong
I can't pin EOD because my training schedule forces me to be gone Mon-Thurs. I was reading that pinning EOD vs pinning MWF would still work just with slightly less results but results nonetheless. Suggestions? Quit the cycle til I can run a full EOD for 8-10 weeks?
You can pin MWF, I promise you won't die.
RustyhookerIf prop is dead in 24 hours....you have no real anabolics in your body for 3 days of a dip.
I'd stop the cycle....pct. figure out a long ester run after proper time is used
I didnt even see that, no wonder his nipples are puffy and sensitive, he put himself on a hormone roller coaster ride that his ai cant keep up with.
How much ai do you usually run with that dose of test?
I get sensitive nips when I wear certain fabrics. Maybe check your shirts and see when they are sensitive and chafed to see if its the material before you start freaking out. If its every shirt you wear then you might be on to something.
You wearing your chain mail vest again?
I show you these things in confidence and you always out me. Thats the last time I send you sexy pics. By the way, Everytime we were together I faked it. No Homo.
I was simply trying to remind you that your nipples chaff when you wear your Midieval gear.
Again, I know you think you're hang'n with the cool kids at those festivals, but I think you're better than that.
You have given me something to think about. When I switched from full goth to sir lancelot I thought I found my place. I was doing the chain shirt mtw and then the rest of the week light leather armor. I know chainmail has a halflife of 24 hitpoints but my quest has me busy 4 days of the week.
NotNatural23I read somewhere you aren't supposed to use Nolva with Deca or Npp? I would get bloods though if you can to see exactly what is causing it? High estrogen or prolactin then adjust accordingly.
Drop the nolva, you don't need it. A little sensitivity and chaffing on the nips is not cause for a knee jerk kitchen sink reaction. You won't grow huge lactating boobs overnight. Unless you got lumps forming I wouldn't be too concerned about adding an anti estrogen like nolva
Aromasin to 12.5 until the sensitivity subsides and get bloods asap. You don't even know if you need caber or not and these aren't drugs to just toss into a cycle unless you need it because your bloodwork(!!!!!!) shows what your estro and prolactin are at.
X2 good advice +1
What's your blood work say? Although playing the guess what chemicals I need game is always fun....
I'd need to do labs when I get the chance. And wait on the turn around for results.
I guess more accurately what would I do while waiting for a result and waiting to get a chance to go in and have them done.
I'd go today but I have a schedule that causes me to be gone for the week. I maintain my AI and pin THUR SAT MON mornings because of it.
Rustyhookerpin thurs...sat...monday? You know prop is dead and gone in 48 hours right? Fluctuations like that would have me batty
Don't change anything get bloods done and show exactly what is wrong.....if you change everything now you will never know exactly what is causing you problems
100% agree with you. If you start taking one or two things now you will not know exactly what's going on when you pull the blood work. Your best bet will get the blood work pulled, and then if you want while you wait for three or four days you could then start taking something to counteract the sensitive nipples. But I would not take anything until you do the blood work because then you'll just be guessing.
backonroidsGood point . A bit of an oversight on my behalf jumping in with out the full information.
backonroids.
Drop the nolva. Take 25 mg aromasin EDuntil nips are no longer sensitive. Follow that by 12.5 mg ed unless you feel like your estrogen is crashed then drop it down a bit. Continue to take caber E3D
backonroidsWhy would you drop the nolva ? I would up aromasin to 12.5 first to see how he personally reacts maybe move up to 25mg if needed if the problem continues I would use 20mg Nolva .
This is just for my personal preference mate not saying your wrong , I like to keep increasing my knowledge on topics from others inputs .
+1 for not being hard headed
I know nolva can sometimes react in a way to deca. Not sure if it's ester or hormone related but I'd assume that it's more in relation to the nandrolone. Obviously this is on a person to person basis as no two people are guaranteed to react the same but it may be a factor. Who knows without blood work though. Right now all we can do is speculate.
I do agree though that he should not jump to 25 mg though and a smaller jump may be more appropriate. But like I said, as of right now with no bloods it's anyone's guess.
backonroidsCheers Joey , good to know !
Nolva up regulates the progesterone receptor so if used in conjunction with deca (or tren) it can cause progesterone based gyno to worsen. Deca takes forever to clear the system which is why I would imagine you'd see the most issues with that particular compound as opposed to npp and most of tren's esters. Just a bit of information I picked up along the last couple months on here.
backonroidsThank you mate , I appreciate the information .. I'm never hard headed when it comes to learning :-) this is a great help - respect